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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I can get a Ar for 900$ and I would have to hold off for 3 weeks to get or I can get a Ak for 460$ and I could pick it up this week. I know there is alot of Ar lovers but have not herd much on the AK. Should I get the AK first and then save up for a AR or get the AK and a SKS for 300$ less than the AR? These sure are good decisions to have to be making!
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
Just my .02 Get the AK and SKS now. BUT DEFINITELY save up and get the AR ASAP. Take some advise about the AR though, plane to put a LOT more than 900 in it when you get it. YOU WILL. All are awesome weapons and you wont be sorry.
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
I would love to see the look on peoples face when I am out riding my quad with a AK around my back. :lol: Thanks for the help. I kinda figured everybody would say the AR. I think the AK looks cooler for what ever that is worth.
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
watch what type of ak you get. if it's a wasr-10 make sure it's milled well enough to fit the extended mags. the wasr's have a history of not being milled well enough for the high caps.

personally i'd go with a saiga 7.62x39. should be able to get one around $375-400. depends on your region. or if you want to do a ffl transfer, i'm sure that my shop wouldn't mind hooking you up. we have them from time to time for around $400.

the sks's can be fun, but they are like a 10/22 when it comes to mods. you can buy a $100-150 rifle, but end up spending 400-600 modding them out.

ar's rock. i love mine. if you want a base model olyarms are <decent>. they just started using higher quality materials. Or you can go with A rock river arms
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
I don't know what you would be doing with it/them primarily. If you want to shoot competitively mostly, I say get the AR. If you are just wanting it for plinking/playing around, get the AK and/or the SKS. Some ARs can be finicky, but I have yet to see ANYONE MAKE an AK fail. They eat ANYTHING and the ammo (when it is readily available, and right now it seems that it is kinda scarce) is generally cheaper than the .223

Good luck.
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
JJ_Westbrook said:
I don't know what you would be doing with it/them primarily. If you want to shoot competitively mostly, I say get the AR. If you are just wanting it for plinking/playing around, get the AK and/or the SKS. Some ARs can be finicky, but I have yet to see ANYONE MAKE an AK fail. They eat ANYTHING and the ammo (when it is readily available, and right now it seems that it is kinda scarce) is generally cheaper than the .223

Good luck.
+1 I've got an AR & love it. But an AK is hard to beat for taking abuse & still working. It really depends on why you want one.
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Would you care any less for an AK than an AR? I know all about the rough-n-toughness of an AK, but really, are any of us going to abuse the one we buy? Prolly not!

AR's are not as finicky as many will lead you to believe. When I was in the Army I saw a number for M-16's that were clapped out, neglected Pieces-o-$h!t and they worked each and every time we went to the range.

Consider that you can also build an AR for around $600 if you are so inclined. That would make it so you could get one now and be ready to go in short order.

I don't own an AK, but will one day. I have shot a number of them in training back in the early 80's. They definately do take a licking and keep on ticking.

What are your plans for the rifle?
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
I've milled this one over a lot as well! I have an SAR-3 (NOT a WASR) and I love it, because it has the reliability of an AK in the flat-shooting and recoil-friendly .223 Remington! I'm somewhere around the 1000-round mark on my SAR-3 and I've never had a problem with it.

I would never sell it, except maybe to fund an AR. I go back and forth on this one. If I put together an AR, it will probably be a varmint gun since I already have a CQB type carbine in the AK-47. You'll be happy with either probably, though be prepared to spend upwards of $500 if you want an AK that looks pretty. Most have pretty poor finishes when you get them, and you either have to live with it or get it refinished.

And, if you have an AK-47, the SKS will seem pretty plain jane next to it. I think most people buy an SKS because they can't or don't want to spend the $$ on an AK-47! Instead of spending $400 on an AK and $200 on an SKS, you might want to consider spending about $500 on a really nice VEPR brand AK and pocketing the other $100 or buying ammo with it.

Just my opinions, this is a pretty common debate and you should be able to find plenty of arguments on the net.
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
For competition or defensive work an AR would most likely be your best bet. Faster reloads, less recoil, last round hold open, and easier to use safety make them better suited to competition. They also have more choices for ammo that is better suited for defense than the AK. If you maintain it most of them are quite relaible. They have far more accesories than the AK.

The AK is no doubt far more relaible than the AR. It will absolutely positively go bang every time you pull the trigger, unless its out of ammo. They can be used, abused, and neglected and still work(thats why I bought mine). Its cheaper to buy. AS stated earlier when readily available ammo is cheaper too. Suitably accurate for most work. With an underfolding stock(where legal) they are quite easy to keep around. Fold the stock, sling it across your back and you'll likely forget its there.

I've had both. I sold the AR as that specific rifle wasn't all that reliable, but I'm building another one. The AK on the other hand has always been there, waiting and ready having never failed
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
I greatly prefer the AR. They are more fun to shoot, and easier to shoot accurately. Plus, optics can be added without the cumbersome solutions an AK will subject you to.

I hated the Norinco NHM91 I used to own, so I sold it and don't miss it, and don't see getting another one.

I will suggest that you consider a .223 AK over a 7.62 version, due to ammo availability and slightly less recoil.
 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
Instead of getting the Ak and the SKS get the AK but spenmd the cash u would spend on the SKS and put it into the Ak so u Can beef it up a lil,Then put the excess cash in some ammo!

Blake.
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
You don't mention what kind of AK for $460. For some that's a good price. For some that's robbery.

J&G Sales has Romania AKs for $320, Yugo underfolders for $450.

In response to which to get AK or AR, well there's only one right answer.

Both.

But if you have to choose which to get first I'd go with the AK. As if you had to ask. :wink:
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
As has been stated before, you probably can't go wrong with either one, but I would advise against getting a Wasr 10. Get a Vepr or Saiga. I have a Wasr10 and a RRA AR15 and I regret buying the WASR10. Not accurate, trigger slap, hasnt been that reliable, fit and finish are not so good, etc. My AR, on the other hand, has been perfect so far (1500 rounds). It has eaten any ammo Ive fed it, accurate as hell, just a joy to shoot. My dilema now is whether to buy some toys for the AR or buy another quality AK. It never ends, I suppose.
 
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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
SKSs are a lot fun as are AKs So if it were me I'd probably go the SKS/AK route. The supply will eventually dry up. ARs so far have no pending legislation banning them. If you were really worried you could always get a AK and SKS as well as a AR receiver (about $100 from AIM) and you've got it all covered. Then build the AR as funds allow.
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
I'm a huge stickler for accuracy and precision which was one of my reasons for going with an AR over the AK. The accuracy is ok for an AK, but an AR's accuracy is quite good. Right now I'm building another AR, but making it suitable for varmit hunting. You really can't do that with an AK. Even crappy low grade AR's have pretty decent accuracy. AR's also have a crap load of equipment designed for it, making it easy for you to change it to your taste.

If you plan on going into three gun competitions, an AR is optimal in my opinion. With the reloading and safety system on an AK, you may suffer speed issues. BTW, you will most likely never get into a situation where you AR gets so dirty that it jams, anyone who tells you that is just blowin smoke.
 
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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
My WASR-10 is still alive and kicking after moderate abuse (throwing it around, not cleaning it all the time) and approximately 5000 rounds through it.

If you've got a dremel tool handy, the WASR is a pretty good option for the money.

As has been said, the AR would be better for accuracy and such, but I enjoy the AK because I feel comfortable roughing it up a little bit.
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
[TASF said:
Maverick]As has been said, the AR would be better for accuracy and such, but I enjoy the AK because I feel comfortable roughing it up a little bit.
Sounds like you need one of these:



It's been thrown in the bed of my truck, dropped countless times, and generally treated like an ugly red-headed stepson.
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
I went to another gun store (were I got my xd9v10) and they have the same ak for 360$ I am glad I did not get the other one. Then he showed me this Kel tech SC 16. WOW that thing is cool. it is 450$. I think I just made up my mind.
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
The SU-16 is cool... but only but the SU-16C or D variants of it. The A and B variants weren't very solid from the reviews I read. Also, the SU-16 is kind of flimsy, so don't expect an amazing weapon, just expect something that is a cool concept and is fun to shoot.

My WASR was $325 brand new with cleaning kit, sling, and two mags (20/30). No muzzle break or threaded muzzle, no bayonet or bayonet lug... um... that's all I can think to list...
 
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