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AR and Monarch Ammo

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Went to the range today to sight in my AR. I just got a carry handle for my flattop and was in the process of sigthing it in when I ran into some problems. I had been to Acadamy and had purchased 80 rounds of Monarch .223, it was 2.87 a box and looked much like wolf. Here's the problem I had, 10 of 30 rounds did not fire. Looked like light primer strikes. I tired some wolf and problem was solved.
Has anybody else had this problem. Looks like Monarch brand ammo has hard primers. I put one of the rounds that didn't fire on the first try and it worked on the second, so it does look like the pimers were kind of hard. I did notice light firing pin marks on the non-firing rounds.
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sounds like a ammo issue , and once u break that gun in it should feed anything u give it .my Bushmaster eats dirtty ammo up like its nothing
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monarch is barnaul which is silver, brown, and golden bear ammo. its made for real rifles like th AK, not little play toys like th AR... :twisted:

sorry,had to do it. but yes, sometimes they do have rather hard primers but should also be better than wolf. try some silver bear. my brothers AR is a tack driver with it, for cheap ammo.
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Even my SKS doesnt like monarch ammo.
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Both my AKs and all my SKSs munch it up with no proplems, the only one I don't care for is Dynamit Noble (RWS) ammo. Thats just because of the oder....
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einheit 13 ,guess what i like both the AK and the AR :p but i agree ak's arnt as picky when it comes to ammo but my AR isnt to picky ether , ive had some issues with ammo but that was the ammos falt ...primers poping out of the shells isnt good lol so i quit buying that ammo i for get the name of the ammo but it was made in china i think it might have been some type of reload witch isnt good in some case's in all types of fire arms
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I mean Monarch ( use to be marketed as RAM ) is usually one of the best. Didn't mean to sound "poopy", but its true milspec ammo, and I have heard of some ARs having trouble with it till they are good and broke in. Remember there is just a very slight difference between 5.56 and commercial .223. the fact that its made in Russia doesn't help either.Believe it or not i've had trouble with American made .380 in one of my old Brownings chambered for 9mm kurtz, which is 9x17 wich IS .380!
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My SKS hits the primer so hard they are almost punctured and they still wont fire. so let hear some more excuses about monarch. please
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Maybe you just gotta bad batch........I've got over 1200 rds left from a 3000rd bulk buy and only 2 failures so far......one was an out of spec rim and the other was light pin strike. And if your pin is hitting that hard, that could be some of your problem right there. One of my Mosins did that on hand loads, never heard the 'pop' of the primer, but you could smell it. Reset pin protrusion and no problems, except on US made ammo......... :roll:
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the whole point was that even with no light primer strikes this shit is still bd. maybe it was old or something :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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That may be the case, always check the sealer between the case and the bullet, if it flakes, it has usually been in high humidity or has gotten wet.
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I have been shooting Wolf with my Bushmaster AR since I got it new. Never run into any problem. Yet I do have FTF when I shoot the Winchester 55g bought at Walmart though. Quite strange. Because of this I like the Wolf ammo quite a lot, cheaper and more reliable.
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All my Monarch ammo went bang but the red sealant they use around the bullet and primer area flakes off and leaves a red mess everywhere that is awful.

I shot some of their 7.62x39 in my Chinese Vietnam capture SKS and their 9x19mm in the Hi-Power and the red flaky crud was everywhere. It is also very filthy ammo. Two magazines out of the Hi-Power looked like i had shot a whole 100rd box of UMC 9mm. Nasty stuff.

After a long shooting streak in the SKS, I noticed that the flakes of sealant were getting melted in the hot action and chamber and the sticky mess caused the first and only malfunction I have ever had in my 3 SKS rifles.

I will never use the stuff again...the buck or two of savings was not worth the mess and cleanup. Even in shitty guns like the SKS its just not worth it. I was kicking myself for shootng it in the Hi-Power...what a mess!

- Brickboy240
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