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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
The verticle grip on the handgaurd. i see many people with them. anyone use them? do they feel better than just cupping the handgaurd wih ur weak hand?
 
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I am finishing my Colt 6920 and the vertical and rifle grips should be here today. I went with Tango Down FDE and Magpul Ladders FDE for the LaRue rail with Vickers 2 point sling FDE. All that is left is the Vltor stock and it's complete. I put off the XD 45 and shotgun to trick out my CQB rifle. Next on the list is a HD/Combat shotgun.

I have shot several AR's with vertical grips. I don't grip the vertical grip like holding a hammer. I cup it similar to grip on pistol weak hand I have part of the rail and part of the vertical grip. If I do grip it like a hammer it's for rifle manulipation around corners and objects. You see troops holding the M-16's by the lower receiver mag well. Similar idea it but it puts your grip out farther on the M4.
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
I carried an M-16 for six years using the standard grip.

I built an M4-gery and have shot it both ways. I prefer the vertical grip on the front. Control seems good and accuracy is as good or better than with the traditional cradle grip.
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Holding a vertical grip is noticably more comfortable and natural to me than holding up the hand guard by turning my palm upward. But each individual may differ.

What I have noticed though is that I eventually develop the habit of holding the gun by the front mag well; it allows the elbow of your weak hand get close enough to the body for good support. That's why I think many people fix their vertical grips near the front of the mag well. For my physique, mag well is actually the best place for grip compared to anything a vertical grip can provide. That's why my vertical grip is now sitting in my storage box down in basement.:D
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Broadside said:
I have shot several AR's with vertical grips. I don't grip the vertical grip like holding a hammer. I cup it similar to grip on pistol weak hand I have part of the rail and part of the vertical grip. If I do grip it like a hammer it's for rifle manulipation around corners and objects. You see troops holding the M-16's by the lower receiver mag well. Similar idea it but it puts your grip out farther on the M4.
This is how a vertical grip "should" be used, I personally don't like them all that much.... put too many rounds through an M16/M203 so now I'm used to holding the handguards.

EDIT- That being said, I might give one a try in the future- if I can get used to it and it helps control the weapon then I'll change my mind.
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
zane said:
This is how a vertical grip "should" be used, I personally don't like them all that much.... put too many rounds through an M16/M203 so now I'm used to holding the handguards.
That will do it for you....I didn't like the M203 much except when it came to shooting them at the range. Other then that they were a PITA.
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
To me it depends on what type of shooting is being done. Closer stuff, I like the grip on there more. Longer stuff I tend to like it off. But that's assuming you are going to a range, and know that you will only be shooting one distance or the other. For someone who actually uses a gun in combat or law enforcement, if you want the grip on there you better learn to shoot both long and shot with it.

But again, I personally like it on mine for the most part. It's more useful to me for use in settings where you might be clearing a building, moving around more. It allows me better control. But longer range, if I have my choice I'd rather support the handguard with my weak hand. That's not to say that the vertical grip can't work good there too. I suppose it just depends on whether or not you're standing while shooting, or sitting at a bench.
 
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Broadside said:
That will do it for you....I didn't like the M203 much except when it came to shooting them at the range. Other then that they were a PITA.
Yeah, the extra weight sucks when you don't need the firepower. Never actually got to fire mine other than at the range so it really wasn't worth it to me.
 
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zane said:
Yeah, the extra weight sucks when you don't need the firepower. Never actually got to fire mine other than at the range so it really wasn't worth it to me.
Yup which is why I got rid of mine first chance I could. Plus the extra weight in 40MM rounds and combat load in 5.56. Would be a different story sitting in Iraq or Afg. But probably would prefer M4 w/ EoTech, ACOG or Aimpoint.
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
jednp said:
To me it depends on what type of shooting is being done. Closer stuff, I like the grip on there more. Longer stuff I tend to like it off.
That's why you need 2 EBR's. ;)
Colt 6920 & Colt 6551 ought to do the trick :cool:
 
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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
I personally hate the short forearm of the M-4 and vertical foregrips dont feel right to me so I bought a Bushmaster Dissapator, full length handgaurds and sight radius 16" heavy barrel. Plus the heavy barrel handles mag dumps better.:twisted:
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
fastboy said:
Absolutely man. I conduct tactical recon stuff in, err..., my basement!:mrgreen:
**** everyday I go home I breach and clear my apartment. I think the staff is getting tired of replacing the door.
 
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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
Broadside said:
That will do it for you....I didn't like the M203 much except when it came to shooting them at the range. Other then that they were a PITA.

Yea, but...
Ya gotta love the 40mm Buckshot round!
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
For some, the vertical grip is all part of the "bling". Personally I have vertical grips for several of my long guns. I don't like the skinny or stubby designs. I use the UTG brand vertical grip. It is available on E-Bay. It is as close as I can tell to the Black Hawk Down brand. Only costs $15 or so +shipping instead of $50 + too.
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
BBunin said:
Yea, but...
Ya gotta love the 40mm Buckshot round!
If only the army issued it to..... well..... anyone. It'd definitely be fun as hell, you'd mow down anything you shot it at.
 
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