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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
If you could get a Bushy M4A4 for $999 or a Colt M4 for $1199 which would you buy? Is Colt quality that much higher than that of Bushy? I was told by a guy at the shop that it wasnt and that the Bushmaster was a great gun. He said the name Colt alone fetches $100-$200 more. I'm not keen on the particulars of each gun so lets assume they are equally spec'd out.
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
IMO the Colt probably is worth the 200 dollar more BUT...

Colt use there own proprietary pins to connect the upper to the lower. So if you later want to use a non-Colt upper or lower with the mating Colt receiver you have to use special pins to put them together. Where the Bushmaster receiver will mate with pretty much any other receiver except Colt.
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
You pay more up front for the colt and if you ever want to sell it you will get your extra money back. I am by no means an AR expert, but I don't think colt is $200 better but their are a lot of people who think if you don't have the pony its pretty much junk.

If it were me I would have a hard time justifying the extra $200 I would/do want it.....but I would want sights/ammo/mags more...

I have a bushy and its been 100% for me:cool:
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Go with the Bushy. Rock River is even better! The Colt quality is NOT up to the standards of several other manufacturers. Paying extra for a name that has sat on its duff for too long.
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
I'd spend $799 on a DPMS gun and use the extra $100 for ammo and mags. That being said, I'd rather have a $999 Bushmaster and $200 in accessories, mags and ammo than a bone stock Colt with nothing to shoot in it.
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
Colt is good stuff. The Colt M4 6920 goes for about $1399 right now from CDNN. A comparable Bushy goes for $879. http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Bushmaster_Rifles.html

$1200 for a Colt 6920 is pretty good deal. Is the Colt $200 better than the Bushy? I say absolutely. Colt is more milspec (for whatever that's worth). But I heard Colt support is not that great so if you need parts it might be a problem. A Bushy is dam fine rifle too and so are Rock River Arms. I myself think the finish on Bushy and RRA is better than Colt. All 3 are great shooters.

The Colts in my area were going for $500 more than Bushy and RRA's, that is why I own a Bushy and not a Colt. If I had a chance to pick up a Colt for $1200 I would.

My Bushy with ARMS 40L backup sight, SureFire rails, Graphite foreward grip, SureFire M600 sout light, and Eotech 512. I have since bought a ACOG TA01NSN for it.

 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
Unless Colt has changed their pins recently you can put another upper
on a Colt lower. I changed out my Colt Lite Weight upper with an aftermarket heavy weight with no prob. . Very happy with the results.


nunnya
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
PackerfanXD said:
And there is no way that is not a double negative. :p ;)
KarolinaKid said:
You're cracking me up man! :mrgreen::mrgreen:
ok ok you guys got me
i was thinking there is no way that a colt is 200 dollars better
and that a colt is not 200 dollars better at the same time
laugh it up boys:oops:
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
I say go w/ the bushmaster. The extra 200 dollars you're paying for the colt is for the stamp on the side that says: Colt.
 
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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
EricCartmann said:
$1200 for a Colt 6920 is pretty good deal. Is the Colt $200 better than the Bushy? I say absolutely. Colt is more milspec (for whatever that's worth).
apparently in this case 200 bucks
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
You guys made some good points with being able to buy $200 more in goodies if I got the Bushmaster. I think I'm just going to go get that. Its just that I've heard so much Colt quality being that of mil-spec, LEO only type talk that I though it was a MUCH better gun.

Going to call the place today to see if they still have that Bushy.
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
Lazarus said:
You guys made some good points with being able to buy $200 more in goodies if I got the Bushmaster. I think I'm just going to go get that. Its just that I've heard so much Colt quality being that of mil-spec, LEO only type talk that I though it was a MUCH better gun.

Going to call the place today to see if they still have that Bushy.
Bushmaster is good choice. I like mine, by now it eats pretty much every kind of ammo that I put through without any hiccup.

And in case you are still wondering about the mil spec issue, here is something that may put you to ease:
http://www.armalite.com/library/techNotes/tnote01.htm

Basically the true mil spec Colt doesn't extend beyond what is issued to the GI; the civilian joe like you and I will not get that.
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
I was once told that with colt you get what the military and police dont want... take that how you want.
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
The whole colt having Proprietary pins is bull, the original colt rifles from Vietnam area had different pins but you cant buy anything like that any more, it only comes in to play if you have old old colt receiver.

Colt makes a better rifle then bushmaster, thats not to say that bushmaster is not a great gun or suitable for most every use.

Colt Is mil-spec, bushmaster is not......bushmaster may build to mil-spec but they don't mag particle check every barrel after having shot a proof round as colt dose, bushmaster only check lots of barrels 1 out of ever how many.

Colt actually has an out side inspector that checks the rifle to insure they are mil-spec, bushmaster dose not.

Colt is available in 1x7 twist where bushmaster is available only in 1x9 twist, this is the only reason I would choose the colt over the bushmaster. The 1x7 twist will allow accurate use of the MK262MOD1 ammo available now.

If It wasn't colt I would save even more money and buy a Double star or stag.

Here is the run down of the AR15 read this
http://www.awrm.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=000390
 
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