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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
Well it is possible the owner was doing some shady business, but it's also possible that it's a scare tactic to get the regular person to think all gun manufacturers and gun stores are criminal organizations, especially when the ATF won't say why they served the warrant.
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
I did some business with one of the owners of Cav Arms, way back before he got into that business. He was one of the owners of Advanced Tactical Firearms, which marketed Accu Match barrels. I thought the guy was really nice. If memory serves me right, and it surely might not, Cav Arms was bought out by that nut that used to run American Spirit Arms. If he's involved with Cav arms, nothing would surprise me.
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Well it is possible the owner was doing some shady business, but it's also possible that it's a scare tactic to get the regular person to think all gun manufacturers and gun stores are criminal organizations, especially when the AFT won't say why they served the warrant.
Why would the feds tell the 6 O'Clock news what the warrant said, If there was no crime committed how would they get a warrant to serve or any cause, it must be a huge conspiracy. What if the money laundered was getting to terrorist which happens allot with black market cigarette's and tons of other stuff would you still be mad at the AFT.
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
From what I've heard it's another case of trying to slow down guns without laws. I know people who have gone through it. Cav is good people.

FWIW- money laundering is usually FBI, not ATF. Hmmmmm, nice easy way to get a warrant and disrupt business. I'm not a tinfoil hat type- but if you can't see the big picture with what's happening to our rights- your blind.
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
The FBI may usually be the ones that investigate money laundering, but I believe that the ATF is involved and takes the initial lead when Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is involved with the crime. If it truely is a money laundering issue, Im sure that the FBI will be the lead investigators in the case.
 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
Why would the feds tell the 6 O'Clock news what the warrant said, If there was no crime committed how would they get a warrant to serve or any cause, it must be a huge conspiracy. What if the money laundered was getting to terrorist which happens allot with black market cigarette's and tons of other stuff would you still be mad at the AFT.
Contrary to popular belief, it is easy to get a warrant if you word your writ correctly, and you have a judge that is on your side to issue it.

Has it been so long as that people have forgotten about the illegal gun siezures that occurred after Katrina?
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
The BATFE is a preemptive, counter-insurgency agency. They were created when prohibition was in the Constitution -- a mistake we remedied. The BATFE should be likewise remedied. There is no just purpose that the BATFE serves that the FBI or the FDA can't do better.

I hate the BATFE.
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
someone probaly forgot to cross a T or dot an i on form.....or god forbid used NM on form instead of spelling the state out.
 
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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
Why would the feds tell the 6 O'Clock news what the warrant said, If there was no crime committed how would they get a warrant to serve or any cause, it must be a huge conspiracy. What if the money laundered was getting to terrorist which happens allot with black market cigarette's and tons of other stuff would you still be mad at the AFT.
I know you have a connection to the ATF now (your brother); but that doesn't mean that they are the perfect little golden goody-two-shoes Fed LE agency. I'm not saying Cavalry is necessary in the right or in the wrong, but stranger and worse things have been done by the BATFE.
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
Did anyone else notice the pink AR lower on the table of "confiscated" guns. No wonder they raided the place:lol:
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
Yeah, I don't wanna read through all 50 pages on arfcom. Is there a summary of what exactly is going on?
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
its a true story.. my dad bought my AR lower from there ( for my bday ) and got his ID stolen...
 
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