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Discussion Starter #1
Ok, I'm toying around with the idea of buying an AR. My main reason for considering one is just in case that dang ban comes back around. I have little use for one really, but have always wanted one. Really would just like to have one, because I know the govt doesn't really want us having them. So, what brand or brands, are good, yet cheaper? I can't really afford the $1000 range like I see everywhere. Well, I can.. but I really don't want to spend that. However I suppose I would in order to get one before a ban if it came down to it last moment. I have no experience with these guns, never even held one. So, hopefully someone can point me toward a less expensive, yet still quality weapon.
 
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Discussion Starter #3
I wonder if anyone else has any experience with those? hmmm. I'd like to find an M4 style actually. I'd prefer the shorter one like that. But who knows. I'm going to a gun show tomorrow, and another one next month. I will just keep an eye out there. I've always wanted one, just because they're cool. And because I have the right to.. at least for now. So, I should get one while my rights aren't being infringed, because I think come next year, our constitution will again be watered down to allow a gun ban.
 
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Discussion Starter #5
not a bad deal on the olympic. I'd love a AR but I can't see spending that much money.


I'm kinda old school. Optics (red dots etc) are cool but I'd be more worried about reliability.
 
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Discussion Starter #6
Ive heard good and bad on the Oly's,like everything else.I too wanted an AR for the longest time,RRA's are great ones but my main two choices were Bushy's and Colts.<<Long time Colt fan,so thats what I ended up with and never regreded it.Everyone should have at least one EBR,IMO.
 
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Discussion Starter #8
magnumize said:
Ive heard good and bad on the Oly's,like everything else.I too wanted an AR for the longest time,RRA's are great ones but my main two choices were Bushy's and Colts.<<Long time Colt fan,so thats what I ended up with and never regreded it.Everyone should have at least one EBR,IMO.
I dont know if Colt has some cheaper ones but all the ones I've seen was over $1000. I know they are good but like jednp I dont see myself using it that much, just want one to have and cant justify spending that much. Bushys are nice and I probably could/would stretch to them if I found additional use for it (like moved out of NJ to AZ or something).
 
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Discussion Starter #9
magnumize said:
Ive heard good and bad on the Oly's,like everything else.I too wanted an AR for the longest time,RRA's are great ones but my main two choices were Bushy's and Colts.<<Long time Colt fan,so thats what I ended up with and never regreded it.Everyone should have at least one EBR,IMO.
No offense, but Colt is just a name these days, there is nothing special about them other than a highly inflated price tag and ify customer service.
 
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Discussion Starter #11
Woo said:
Try gunsamerica.com

search "RRA"

theres a place called "Arkansas Outdoor Supply"
I searched RRA, and didn't find Arkansas Outdoor Supply anywhere in the list, unless I'm blind.

Nevermind, I'm blind hah.
 
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Discussion Starter #12
Wow. Because of this thread I asked for a RRA catalog and got it today. Nice looking weapons but the cheapest one was $850. I'm not sure what I makes them worth so much more than Olympic. I realize the Olympics have had some issues and those mainly have to do with barrels not tightened properly etc. But hell. For $300 I'll do a little monkeying to make sure its 100% reliable.
 
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Discussion Starter #13
beardman2 said:
Wow. Because of this thread I asked for a RRA catalog and got it today. Nice looking weapons but the cheapest one was $850. I'm not sure what I makes them worth so much more than Olympic. I realize the Olympics have had some issues and those mainly have to do with barrels not tightened properly etc. But hell. For $300 I'll do a little monkeying to make sure its 100% reliable.
Where you find one for $300?
 
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Discussion Starter #16
If you want a cheap AR build it yourself. DPMS makes a nice kit. Buy a stripped lower and put all the pieces together. Then add the upper of your choice. I forget the specifics but there is a % federal tax on a firearm. If you buy a stripped lower the tax is only on that one part. Also if your just looking to beat the ban buy the stripped lower now and build it later once you have the knowledge. As far as quality I like bushmaster, oldder colt, RRA, and DPMS.

BTW the ban never stopped the AR; you just couldn't have collapsable stocks, threaded barrels, flash suppressors, and of course the evil bayonet lug. Most of which isn't real important to anyone using it on the range.
 
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Discussion Starter #18
Well, went to a gun show today and they had olympic arms ar's, and I think a few rock river arms. Cheapest olympic was $600 for the plinker one, and I think the cheapest RRA was $800 something. I liked the feel of the RRA better, but the price of the olympic better. If it's true about the barrel not being fitted tightly on some of those, is that just with the lower model ones? I'm thinking I will probably end up spending around $800.. hopefully.. by the time I decide to purchase. Just really not sure what brand. I don't think I'm capable at the moment to buy seperate stuff and build a rifle on my own though.
 
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Discussion Starter #19
Ok, I went over to ar15.com to see if I could find any info. I'm fairly mechanically inclined with most things. For any of you who actually have done it, how hard is it to actually build your own rifle? Reading a long post on there explaining how to do it, seems like I might be able to. In the end, doing it that way I'd have more what I'd want anyway I think... maybe.. depending on what I could find anywhere for a decent price on a full rifle. It doesn't appear that it's that complicated of a rifle, doesn't seem like there is that many parts really. Also, how does the M-16 compare to the AR-15? They're basically the same rifle, right? except one is full auto. I have a friend who was in the army for a long time and he has experience with M-16's, and also he's pretty big into building his own guns lately.. WWI and WWII type guns and I think he'd be a big help in something like this. So, if anyone can help me figure out how hard, or how easy it is to build something like this I'd appreciate it. I think I'd rather do it piece by piece, if I'm able to do it.. and get it how I want it, even if it takes longer to do than just buying a full rifle to begin with.
 
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Discussion Starter #20
it was a article a read somewhere about reliability problems with ARs. It also listed colt and others as having the same problem. I'd have to find it again. I dont remember them talking about any real flaws just stuff that needed to be checked for 100% reliability.
 
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