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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Whats the point when the tech is only $50.00 more. Now if the Bushy was going for $250 we'd have something.
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
the holosight looks flimsy and cheap, whereas the eotech is tough and battle proven.

I can't find the story, but there was a marine who's eotech stopped a bullet and it still worked. How many sights can claim that?
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
the holosight looks flimsy and cheap, whereas the eotech is tough and battle proven.

I can't find the story, but there was a marine who's eotech stopped a bullet and it still worked. How many sights can claim that?

Trijicon ACOG
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
I was looking to put an ACOG on my Bushy, but when they start at $1K, I couldn't quite afford that. I settled for an Eotech after hearing great things about them from guys using them in Iraq.....I love mine.
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
the holosight looks flimsy and cheap, whereas the eotech is tough and battle proven.

I can't find the story, but there was a marine who's eotech stopped a bullet and it still worked. How many sights can claim that?
so far just the one that it happened to freakish things can happen, but dont seriously think that if you aimed your rifle at your EoTech and fired that it would stop the bullet

i seen a guy at the range dropped his AR and in the process of grabbing it he wacked the glass on his trailer hitch and completely spider webbed the whole front of the glass.

weird crap happens all the time maybe we should get EoTech to start making body armor for the troops.
 
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Level 3 .. the parent company does make body armor :) I've heard from an interesting source that they have a significant stake in Pinnacle.
 
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From AR15.com I am pretty sure I read that the same people make the Holosight and the Eotech.
Didn't hear it on arfcom, but the bushnell holosight is technically an Eotech 503.

Eo makes both. The Holosight just lacks the shroud and possibly a few heavier gaskets. Bushnell just markets the holosights and labels them IIRC.
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Didn't hear it on arfcom, but the bushnell holosight is technically an Eotech 503.

Eo makes both. The Holosight just lacks the shroud and possibly a few heavier gaskets. Bushnell just markets the holosights and labels them IIRC.
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I have an EOTech and a Holosight and all the parts interchange. The only difference is the ($50) metal shroud on the EOTech.
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
There is more to it than the hood........
Really? You could've fooled me. I have both right here and, other than the metal shroud on the EOTech, they look identical to me. The battery covers interchange between the two, the rubber gaskets are the same, the controls are the same, the lenses appear identical... Pray tell. What are the differences besides the shroud?
 
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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
Really? You could've fooled me. I have both right here and, other than the metal shroud on the EOTech, they look identical to me. The battery covers interchange between the two, the rubber gaskets are the same, the controls are the same, the lenses appear identical... Pray tell. What are the differences besides the shroud?
The internals, battery life, just to name a few.......

http://www.bushnell.com/general/riflescopes_holosight_51-0021.cfm

http://www.eotech-inc.com/lawe_hwsmodels.php
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
Some of the newer EOTech models have different battery options and, susequently, longer battery life. But... Both of mine use N-type batteries.

Since (both of) mine were built by the same people in the same factory with identical external parts (save the metal shroud on the EOTech) and use identical batteries, what makes you think the internal parts and battery life are any different?
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
Some of the newer EOTech models have different battery options and, susequently, longer battery life. But... Both of mine use N-type batteries.

Since (both of) mine were built by the same people in the same factory with identical external parts (save the metal shroud on the EOTech) and use identical batteries, what makes you think the internal parts and battery life are any different?

Well if you'll notice, EOT has taken some rather long strides away from the N type batteries and for good reason IMHO. CR123's and or Lithium AA's add shelf life, more consistent power flow and as a result longer life spans during use. Given that AimPoint is still kicking their asses handily in the battery life arena, I'd bet you see EOT make additional strides towards size reduction and battery life in the next 12-18 months.

Not bashing you're choices, I waffled on going with the N-type's because of cost until I saw the 553 running on CR123's, something I already have a stash of. (and that ever fricken growing collection of SureFire lights) Coupled with the downward creeping cost of the Lith. AA's.

You're assessment that your 511 (maybe 551? I'm guessing here) and the Bushnell are exceptionally close, I'll not argue with that one. Though I am also seeing the Bushnell HS powered by AAA batteries (yikes that's small). But the blanket statement that the Bushnell is the same as the 552,553 or 512's is not accurate and is a bit too much of a generalization for most of us - which is why you see so much push back when you make that statement :razz:

It's all good though, maybe EOT is just offloading the manufacturing and parts to Bushnell (another L3 company?) so that the base technology can be pushed into the civilian market for those who don't want to pony up for the current production versions?
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
If I was buying new now, I would probably opt for a different type of battery as well (although I have plenty of N-type batteries kicking around these days). I bought used, and I did it quite some time ago, so N-type was what I got (Not even the beloved revision F! :shock:).

My point is that the Bushnell HOLOsight is made by EOTech as a "civillian HWS" (their words, not mine) and marketed by Bushnell. If it is a "cheap piece of crap", then the 551 is a "cheap piece of crap with a metal shroud on it". Both use the same batteries, both have the same battery life, both are water-proof to the same depth, etc, etc.
 
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