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Evolution of the modern Semiautomatic

Discussion in 'AR Talk' started by agalindo, Dec 10, 2008.

  1. agalindo

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    This a quote from the article title above. The Evolution of the Modern Semi-Automatic

    Pretty interesting:
     
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  2. XDONBOARD

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    I already have the disease, get your dope away from me.
     
  3. nalioth

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    It still [​IMG] where it eats.
     
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  4. agalindo

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    :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
     
  5. So Flo

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    I assume referring to the gas operating system dumping dirty gas back into the bolt, etc.

    The word he left out was '$h!ts' between still and where!
     
  6. rudy64

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    noob alert:rolleyes:

    Would someone please tell me their own experiences when dealing with stock handguards vs. free floating one. Is there really THAT MUCH of a difference, or is it that same type of argument when someone uses such and such ammo because it's 2 fps more than the other brand of ammo (or the 9mm vs. .45 debate:twisted:)?

    :confused:
     
  7. agalindo

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    No argument there, just noted that when you go to piston and rod you lose accuracy.

    To me having gas directed into the bolt carrier group is no biggie. Hey, my ARs have no problem with jams while shooting three gun and service rifle matches. If I ever have to use it in a SD situation I doubt I'll be rolling around in the dirt shooting hundreds of rounds.
     
  8. Carnivorous

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    So are you saying that the M16/AR-15 is more accurate than the M14/M1A?
     
  9. agalindo

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    If you want an accurate AR for varmint shooting, or target shooting where 1 or 1/2 moa difference is important, it's best to go with a free float tube. If your just plinking and such no.
     
  10. agalindo

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    I'm not saying that. The article and the NRA match results are saying it.
     
  11. nalioth

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    A picture is worth 1000 words.
     
  12. sourpatch45

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    if you clean it, it doesnt really matter where it takes a crap.
     
  13. Ske1etor

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    I'll also add that if you are going to do the varmint shooting route and want the ultimate in accuracy, get the upper chambered in .223, at least 20" Heavy barrel (HBAR for extended shooting at longer ranges), 1/9 twist to stabilize the lighter bullets and stay away from chrome lined bores.

    :D
     
  14. thehinge

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    Thank you for posting this. Eugene Stoner was very aware of piston-rod systems when he designed the AR.
     
  15. HTOWN stunna

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    i would actually venture to say that its not really the rifle, but the shooter. At a local high power match a Border partol agent with a 14.5 inch M4 out shot almost everybody with their 1500 dollar customized Ar's. the rifle does matter but if the shooter is a great shot that matters also. i can take a customized 2000 dollar AR and not shoot worth a damn because i am not the best shot.
    [​IMG]

    lol que huevotes tienes lol
     
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  16. agalindo

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    Here's another quote from the article. Considering the distance, and the winner shooting a bolt action with a scope the Wimbledon winner and the Farr Trophy winner were not too far apart.

     
  17. Jmanwit

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    Serio! LOL
     
  18. The DRis

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    I don't want a 1/2 MOA gun at 100yds. I want to be able to hit a man sized target at 100yds. If that is 2-3 MOA that is fine with me. But I want reliability not accuracy.

     
  19. agalindo

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    The thing is I'm not taking my ARs to war. I use for for home defense and competition. Neither of these scenarios require me to stay in a firefight for 48 hours in the sand at 120 degrees.

    We are comparing Apples to Oranges here. I'm talking about competition AR15s, and home defense you're talking military m16s, and militias.
     
  20. The DRis

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    Dude, read what you posted...

    "The M16 is the most accurate rifle the U.S. has ever issued."

    It is talking about issued rifles. Yes accuracy is nice, but a piston would make it more reliable. And the accuracy would not be thrown off by that much.
     
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