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I got my RRA AR15 a month ago and yesterday I was finally able to take it out to Scottsdale Gun Club. I fired off the first mag with no problems. It was very accurate and I was pleased. I loaded up a mag for my buddy and got it ready to fire for him and...nothing. So I took the rifle from him and I racked the slide and it fired. The next shot would not fire. This repeated a few times and then a SGC gunsmith, that happened to witness this senario, said that it had to be 'fixed.' He said that it was common and that it 'wasn't a big deal,' that maybe 'a spring was in backwards.' So I turned it in and was told that it will be 2 weeks before i get it back. The rifle is under warranty so I hope I don't get charged for anything.
I was very bummed out but the gunsmith said not to worry, that he highly recommends the RRA over any other brand of AR. That made me feel a little better but not much.
What do you guys think?
 
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I may get flamed for this, but I will not buy an AR due to thier finnickyness. They are very persciece guns and becasue of this are prone to certian issues.
 
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Packer, that is sad to hear. I know you've been waiting to shoot it.

My buddy got an RRA a few months back and we took it out and popped off about 100 rounds or so. Worked great for us. Maybe you just got one of the Friday afternoon, I'm-ready-to-go-home specials. It can happen.

You never dry fired it did you???? That will break things from what I hear.
 
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Ive beat he hell out of my AR without issue , They can be tempermental when not built right . Ive fired mine filthy , dirty , in freezing weather , in the rain , and it always did what it was supposed to .

I hope yours get sorted out , Im sure you will enjoy it when it corrected .
 
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I'm the VP of a Gun Club we have at my University. We have 2 ARs. We have 4 big shoots a year and each AR probably sees 1000 rounds or so. We have had them ever since I've been in school, plus 2 shoots this year.

So...3 years X 4 shoots X 1000 + 2 shoots X 1000 rounds = 14,000 rounds each. And that's just since I've been here. I don't know how long we actually had them. We've definately not experienced this problem that you are talking about. They've performed pretty darn well with the exception of a few springs (which is like an oil change when you shoot as often as we do).
 
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Oh, I think ours are DPS Panthers, but don't quote me on it. I can check later if you really want to know the brand.
 
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The dry firing having negative effects deal doesn't make a whole lot of sense. When I was in the military we spent one week "snapping in" 1000's of dry fires. Then a week on the range in live firing. Perhaps those were (probably were) titanium firing pins and that is where the difference is.

Let us know what the fix was for it, I for one would be interested to know.
 
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It sucks, but it'll get fixed and you shouldn't be charged anything. Shyte happens and things don't always work right.......I don't own one, I have an AR180b, but the folks I know that have them love them...
 
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I too hope you get it repaired W/O charge.

These AR's are actually very simple assemblies. If I were to make a wild a** guess, with the limited info available, I would say it lies in the bolt assembly: probably the firing pin, or gas rings (if not mag related). Maybe they (gas rings) have rotated or cracked and are allowing the gas that cycles the round to escape. I am not sure how a backward spring would work for a full mag then suddenly become an issue.

Don't give up on what is a good rifle. While I only have DPMS, or DPMS lowers with mixed pts, RRA produces respectable AR's.

Dry firing AR's is NOT an issue.
 
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Man that's too bad. It sucks big time to have a new gun you are excited about not work. I'm sure they will make it right for you.
 
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As a general rule, do not dry fire your weapon. If you do, we know what you're going to break, and we'll know why you're asking for this-or-that new part. That applies to the entire piece... we've seen and heard it pretty much all before. Nothing happens without a reason, nothing ever happens just once.
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But that's just what I "heard"
 
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The firing pin was leaving just a slight mark on the primer on every other feed. I'd cycle it and then the next one would fire. One time I tryed to cycle it and the charging handle felt like it would just come out; like it wasn't grabing anything.
 
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That's really odd. I've had a gas ring fracture and still never had a problem (although I replaced it since then). Even if that were the case, you would think that manually cycling the bolt would get you a good strike every time.
 
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I'm going from memory here.... and it has been YEARS since I've fiddled with one, and don't have my AR yet, but it sounds like you may be missing a pin on the bolt carrier group that connects the charging handle.... But as I said this from memory, and much like the old grey mare, the memory ain't what she used to be.
 
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