Help me!!!!! AR15 question

Killerquad said:

I would like to hear some of your opinions on this weapon. Do you think it is a good deal ( I know a good deal is what one is willing to pay but since I am unfamiliar with ARs I am deffering this to those who know). What do you guys think about the quality of it? Any opinions are welcomed. Thanks!

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The quality of Stag and Bushmaster are top notch. IMO its an ok deal. I would just build a new rifle for about the same price.

It seems a little high to me. Someone buggered up the lower in the trigger guard, it's not a flat top, and it's used.

I personally perfer a factory built gun rather parts that some one put together. You could probably find complete Bushmaster witht the A2 top the same price. I've seen new ones for around $815.

for a used home brew I think its a bit over priced. you can get a new rifle from bushmaster for just a few dollars more.

my $.02 ymmv

maybe make him an offer 675 or 700 shipped.

poortrader said:

I personally perfer a factory built gun rather parts that some one put together. You could probably find complete Bushmaster witht the A2 top the same price. I've seen new ones for around $815.

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I agree, in fact I found a slightly used Bushmaster w/ an A3 upper and a couple of extras for $875.00. Not the lowest price ever, but the rifle was in great shape. Just shop around.....

Thanks for all the feedback! What's the differences in the tops? A2 is the fixed carry handle? A3 is the flattop? Is there any other variants? I am such a newbie to ARs .

Check out the link below on AR uppers.

http://groups.msn.com/TheMarylandAR15ShootersSite/whatisana1a2a3ora4.msnw

Thanks. I was trying to find that last night but no luck.

You could build that rifle brand new for less than what he wants for it. And building it, you could choose the exact parts and accessories.

and like it was mentioned, that's not a flat top receiver, the carry handle isn't a simple removable handle on a flat top either.

Like several in here I am also partial to factory build guns. Just my preference. I take comfort in knowing the guns from places like Bushmaster or RRA are built and quality checked by skilled workers and covered by factory warranty; not all home assembled guns can say the same. Well if you build it yourself that's another matter.

With the price drop these days for brand new factory guns, I believe the 20-30 extra dollars are worth while for going with the factory. These guys have some pretty fairly priced Bushmasters:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/36_60

The same gun like mine is now costing $50 less on there than what I bought mine for 1 and 1/2 year ago.

I own an early RRA that was purchased as two separate halves. They fit tight and function flawlessly. Each half is covered by a warranty, but the rifle, assembled complete would not be covered. Basically, in the event of a problem, I'd ned to isolate it and deal with the corresponding half. I'd assume the same to be true for this Stag-Bushy rifle, but the fact that the pins were reveresed screams "build" to me, and I wouldn't expect it to have any warranty. If they were purchased as complete halves, it would be wise to inquire if he has any proof of purchase on them. It would prove to you who assembled them, and might come in handy if the manufacturer requests to see them for warranty work.

I've been researching the AR for myself for over a year now. I originally was determined to build one from parts, but have now decided to just buy a complete lower and a complete upper and slap them together myself. This is actually less expensive than a complete gun, too. Granted, I won't get the "experience" and bragging rights by not assembling it myself, but a functional gun covered by warranty is more important to me.

You have the comfort of knowing it was all head-spaced and put together at the factory, and that way it's covered under the manufacture's warranty.

The rifle you are talking about seems to be nice, but it's used, and who really knows what it's been through.

Get yourself a Rock River for about the same amount of money, only NEW.

Just my 2¢.

I built my Stag AR for 750 total and it was lefty, meaning the upper technically cost more. You should be able to build a complete rifle for less than that seller.

Just know that there won't be warranty on home built guns AND they don't come with magazines (no biggy, you can pick mags up for 10 a pop)

This deal does not seem to bad...considering it only has a couple hundred rounds through it, it includes two 30 round mags and the case. The case is probably a $50 unit...

I built my own and found it very informative. I carried and shot an M16 while I was in the Army and I never knew exactly how it went together and what made it work...now I know!

I should add, you can get a completely customized upper from www.ar15barrels.com and build a lower receiver (you pretty much can't screw this up as long as the stripped lower is cast well, and the parts kit isn't junk) and still come out ahead, with a quality weapon that'll be as good as a factory Stag, RRA, Bushy, etc.