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I am builgin an ar, and I want a very short (but not SBR) AR15. I have decided to get most likely a 14.5 barrel with a 1.5 permattached muzzle brake. But I also see these 11.5 barrles with long muzzle breaks, and think that kinda looks kool too.

This gun is by no means meant for long range, it will need to be decent at 100 yards, but not nessisarily moa. Also I am not nessisarily opposed to the 16in regular barrel if there is that much detriment caused by the shorter barrels.... I am looking for a full kit minus the striped lower... Any recomendations would be welcome (I already know aobut ar15.com)
 
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skip the 11.5 + the looooong flash hider perm attached
go with the 14.5 with extended perm attached IF you never want to be able to take the front sight base off....
the 16 is the way to go if you ever want to make changes to the barrel.

Mike
 
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skip the 11.5 + the looooong flash hider perm attached
go with the 14.5 with extended perm attached IF you never want to be able to take the front sight base off....
the 16 is the way to go if you ever want to make changes to the barrel.

Mike
Listen to the sage advice offered. I have owned all of the listed lengths and the 16" was by far the most reliable and accurate of the bunch. If you want to scare small children and old folks the 11" with the 5" flash supressor will not only look like a flame thrower but will also rattle your fillings loose. Can we say muzzle blast boys and girls, I had the same experience with a 14.5" Bushmaster with the tri comp compensator LOUD. The 16" was match accurate and reliable plus the A2 flashhider wasnt nearly as obnoxious to shoot or be around while it was being shot.
 
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Yup, what they said..

Kits..

www.ar15sales.com - if you haunt ARFCOM, then you've seen Pete's ads and the STAG kit while a bit more than the base line Del-Ton, is still a solid start.

www.del-ton.com - another good kit site. From other threads here, it looks like you could build a complete weapon for less than $700 if you go bare bones.
 
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Listen to the sage advice offered. I have owned all of the listed lengths and the 16" was by far the most reliable and accurate of the bunch. If you want to scare small children and old folks the 11" with the 5" flash supressor will not only look like a flame thrower but will also rattle your fillings loose. Can we say muzzle blast boys and girls, I had the same experience with a 14.5" Bushmaster with the tri comp compensator LOUD. The 16" was match accurate and reliable plus the A2 flashhider wasnt nearly as obnoxious to shoot or be around while it was being shot.
+1 SBRs are just too damn loud and flashy. My 16" has all the accuracy you'll ever need and is quite pleasant to shoot. The shorter the bbl the less reliable also.
 
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+1 on Del-ton. http://www.del-ton.com/Rifle_Kit_p/rkt104.htm

They now offer 16" Mid-length kits which have a longer sight radius than 16" Carbines. With the ATF regulations unless you go sbr you'll still be stuck with a barrel (including the flashhider) that's 16" or more long anyway. Why sacrifice the extra velocity and accuracy by going with an 11" barrel + 5 inch flash hider.

If you have questions about barrel weights and profiles you should check out http://www.ar15barrels.com
 
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