If you had your choice Rock River or Bushmaster.

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Discussion Starter · Jan 10, 2006

If you had your choice for a pre-built AR which would you take? I know some have bad luck with one or the other but if you had your choice which one.

I'd rather go pre-built than build my own. Not enough time to build my own. They both look like great rifle companies. Curious of your opinions.

Looking to spend some tax money when it comes in.

Thanks for you opinions.

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Discussion Starter · #2 · Jan 10, 2006

bryan.tonya said:
If you had your choice for a pre-built AR which would you take? I know some have bad luck with one or the other but if you had your choice which one.

I'd rather go pre-built than build my own. Not enough time to build my own. They both look like great rifle companies. Curious of your opinions.

Looking to spend some tax money when it comes in.

Thanks for you opinions.

As you said, you can't go wrong with either. Differences are negligible. A lot of soldiers now are carrying old FN's, so I imagine a brand new RRA or Bushy will suit your needs just fine. I personally would choose RRA because they are a little cheaper.

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Discussion Starter · #3 · Jan 10, 2006

RRA

but I might be a bit biased

b/c I just got one for Christmas.

That said, the reason I went that route is 2 fold.

1. RRA has the 2-stage match trigger!!!

2. Bushy sells so many rifles since the ban that their fit/finish(QC) is suffering. (source AR15.com)

Oh yeah, I always root for the underdog (XD>Glock RRA>Bushy Mossberg>Remington etc.), and let me say I have yet to be dissappointed in the firearms.

YMMV

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Discussion Starter · #4 · Jan 10, 2006

Yeah I did like RR prices. I just wanted some opinions just in case I missed something. I like some of the setups that Bushmaster has also. Lately it's just been learning the lingo of their construction. A2,A4, etc.....

Thanks for your opinions. Mine will be for just plinking and maybe some light P. dog shooting in the future. I'm thinking 20" barrel for that. The rest will just have to be determined by further research and studying the exact options available. I guess I was wondering if I missed something about one or the other, does one have better warranty or better mags or whatever.

Thanks for you help.

Thanks,

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Discussion Starter · #5 · Jan 10, 2006

bryan.tonya said:
Yeah I did like RR prices. I just wanted some opinions just in case I missed something. I like some of the setups that Bushmaster has also. Lately it's just been learning the lingo of their construction. A2,A4, etc.....

Thanks for your opinions. Mine will be for just plinking and maybe some light P. dog shooting in the future. I'm thinking 20" barrel for that. The rest will just have to be determined by further research and studying the exact options available. I guess I was wondering if I missed something about one or the other, does one have better warranty or better mags or whatever.

Thanks for you help.

Thanks,

You probably already know this, but ar15.com will answer many questions you didn't even know you had about the ar15 variants. There's a whole forum dedicated to magazines, for instance.

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Discussion Starter · #6 · Jan 10, 2006

I got this one!!!!
standard Entry Tactical set up, but I did add Chrome lined barrel

orderedthrough a local shop it took right at 30 days (order to delv)
that includes Christmas day!!!!

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Discussion Starter · #7 · Jan 10, 2006

That's the other one I was looking at. Nice setup.

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Discussion Starter · #8 · Jan 10, 2006

given my druthers, I'd opt for the RRA. That being said, both are excellent weapons (so long as you don't get one of those Carbon series bushys).

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Discussion Starter · #9 · Jan 10, 2006

I believe the RRA has a different gas chamber, kind of a cross between a .223 and the NATO 5.56 round, it is called Wiley or something (starts with a W).

Many Bushy's are chambered for .223, which can arise problems with using surplus NATO rounds after.

I don't own an RRA but my friend does and its a great AR.

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Discussion Starter · #10 · Jan 10, 2006

Rock River----hands down !!!

Our issued M-4's are Bushmasters and Colts......put it this way, if I had my choice it would be Rock River, Colt then the Bushmaster......

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Discussion Starter · #11 · Jan 10, 2006

I got the Elite CAR A4 a few months ago. Excellent weapon. I've just used it for target shooting so far and I have yet to have a problem. I was new to AR's when I got mine so I had to do a lot of researching before hand. I think that RRA is one of the more under appreciated manufacturers. Colt and Bushmaster seem to be the main ones and I've heard some people having problems with them (very rare I might add) but all the reviews I saw on RRA were excellent and they were a little bit cheaper than Colt and Bushmaster so that put the icing on the cake.

Get a RRA, you'll love it.[/img]

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Discussion Starter · #12 · Jan 10, 2006

DEA chose RRA, for whatever that's worth. They're pretty demanding of the firearms they choose.

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Discussion Starter · #13 · Jan 10, 2006

I'd recommend RRA. IMO, Bushmaster has you paying more money for the snake on the LR. Both mfgrs have nice quality stuff though.

With respect to a comment on 2-stage match trigger, I would not let that sway your decision. If you want a 2-stage match trigger in a Bushmaster, you can get that it in virtually any of their fully assembled rifles too. You'd just have to add $119 (double check with them).

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Discussion Starter · #14 · Jan 10, 2006

dirtyvicar said:
DEA chose RRA, for whatever that's worth. They're pretty demanding of the firearms they choose.

I wonder how much of that is because of a lowest bid situation?

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Discussion Starter · #15 · Jan 10, 2006

I did as much research as i could before I purchased my AR and i went with the RRA and have never looked back, im very satisfied.

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Discussion Starter · #16 · Jan 10, 2006

ichy_trigger said:
I did as much research as i could before I purchased my AR and i went with the RRA and have never looked back, im very satisfied.

Totally agree. Fanstastic weapon. Far more accurate than me.

I got the CAR A4 / Quad Rail Aluminum Free Float, CAR Length / Tactical CAR Stock

Couldn't make my mind up on either an Aimpoint or an EOTech. Got both.

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Discussion Starter · #17 · Jan 10, 2006

hytekblue said:
dirtyvicar said:

DEA chose RRA, for whatever that's worth. They're pretty demanding of the firearms they choose.

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I wonder how much of that is because of a lowest bid situation?

I seriously doubt that. They have the most extreme torture test of all federal entities for handguns. I'm guessing they apply the same rigid standards to long guns. Maybe of the carbines that passed the test, they were the lowest bidder, but that would be a good thing in my book!

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Discussion Starter · #18 · Jan 10, 2006

I feel compelled to add my dos centavos, as I have a Bushmaster and a RRA.

It's true, the finish (both protective finish and metal work quality finish) are better on the RRA. The trigger on the RRA is absolutely sweet (so much that I put the 20" Bushy upper on the RRA lower.

But that last statement says it all, as far as I'm concerned -- they're both good enough in my mind that I'll switch the parts and still think they're just as good as when stock.

Can't go wrong with either, nods to the RRA.

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Discussion Starter · #19 · Jan 10, 2006

Thanks to all who have replied. I think RRA seems to have the edge and that' what I'm getting. Now I just gotta wait for uncle sam to send me my tax refund. Come on refund...

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Discussion Starter · #20 · Jan 10, 2006

I myself am researching my first AR-15 build. From what I've seen/read/heard, both are excellent quality. But, based on my own research, I'm going with RRA. It only boils down to cost. I guess Bushmaster has a more expensive logo? Or a better industry name recognition?

For my first AR-15, I'm going with all RRA parts, but I'm not ordering it from RRA. Eagle Firearms has RRA parts at a better price. For example, the rifle I want to build/buy is:

upper: RRA Standard A4, Chrome Moly, 1/9 Twist, No-Ban Model, 20" Flattop Upper Assembly (.223 Wylde chamber)

lower: RRA Complete M4 Lower 1/2 with 6 Position Stock, with National Match 2 Stage Trigger Group

From Eagle, these parts would cost a total of $718. Direct from RRA, they're $870. Hmmmm...... :?

For anyone interested in Eagle Firearms, here's their RRA products page:
http://www.eaglefirearms.net/Rock River Arms.htm

I'm going with RRA for my first AR-15. I doubt I'll be disappointed.

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