AR15 Forums banner
1 - 20 of 20 Posts
G

·
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I was cleaning my new AR-15 and one of the gas rings was very worn out and the small gap in it was now a huge gap, the ring just fell right off. Two questions. One, Will if function with only two rings? Second, do places like gander mountain or something like that sell gas rings? Or do i have to get a whole new bolt with them already installed. Im in Dayton ohio and would like to go pick up the pice instead of waiting a week from ordering it on the internet. Thanks.
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #3 ·
Hahah no zombies, but i just picked it up used for a good price and i want to shoot it tomorrow.
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Don't know that I would fire it w/o the requisite gas rings in place. Their whole purpose is to prevent that hot gas from escaping into the lower and subsequently your face.
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #6 ·
I was cleaning my new AR-15 and one of the gas rings was very worn out and the small gap in it was now a huge gap, the ring just fell right off.
Yep...


That'll happen. Gotta clean and inspect the thing every now and then.
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Well it looked like the guy before me that owned it only cleaned the barrel. the bolt was filthy. thats probably why he sold it, to much burning powder in his face. Im going to fire it tomorrow any way and see what happens, ill bring my xds incase the ar isnt feeling well
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Well it looked like the guy before me that owned it only cleaned the barrel. the bolt was filthy. thats probably why he sold it, to much burning powder in his face. Im going to fire it tomorrow any way and see what happens, ill bring my xds incase the ar isnt feeling well
"Im going to fire it tomorrow any way to see what happens..."
Never a good idea with a firearm. Dangerous to you and those around you.

You KNOW it is missing a gas ring. Why would you knowingly pull the trigger on a weapon that you KNOW is not 100% ready to fire? Aren't there any gun shops around where you live? A parts kit for an AR is not hard to find.

I would not fire my AR if one of the rings fell out. What condition are the other two rings in? I understand - I love shooting my AR - but fix the rifle before you shoot.
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #9 ·
Oh, one more question, how do i know if my AR will take 556 ammo. it says 223-5.56 on the lower, should it state it some where on the barrel too?
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #10 ·
The other to rings are fine. I know your probably right, no, not many gun stores around, I know of one but not sure if they have ar parts. Ill call tomorrow and find out.
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #12 ·
Try Brownells.com for AR-15 parts. They have a large selection of parts from different people. Check out the McFarland gas ring. It is a single pieece of spring steel Part# 100-001-257AA. Hope this helps.
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Oh, one more question, how do i know if my AR will take 556 ammo. it says 223-5.56 on the lower, should it state it some where on the barrel too?
It's not the lower that has to be 5.56 to shoot 5.56 it's the upper, the barrel chamber has to be chambered for the 5.56.
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #14 ·
5.56 won't "blow up" in a .223 chamber. You might get a stuck case or a popped primer, but that's it. If you are paranoid about it, find a gunsmith with a Ned Christiansen chamber reamer and have it reamed to 5.56 specs. It just takes a moment and shouldn't cost more than $20 to get done.

Otherwise, shoot quality ammo and don't worry about it unless you get some pressure signs.
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #15 ·
Never a good idea with a firearm. Dangerous to you and those around you.

You KNOW it is missing a gas ring. Why would you knowingly pull the trigger on a weapon that you KNOW is not 100% ready to fire? Aren't there any gun shops around where you live? A parts kit for an AR is not hard to find.

I would not fire my AR if one of the rings fell out. What condition are the other two rings in? I understand - I love shooting my AR - but fix the rifle before you shoot.
First, missing gas rings are not dangerous. They just make your rifle into a straight-pull action. ;) An AR will run on one gas ring, just fine. If you break one, clear the ring pieces from wherever they ended up and keep going.
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #16 ·
make sure that when your cleanin your AR that those holes in the rings are offset when you put it back together..
and i thought 5.56 and .223 are the same.. whats the diff
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #17 ·
.556 runs at higher pressure and has a slightly longer neck. Depending on how tight your chamber is it can cause dangerous pressure levels. A Wylde chamber will fire both but if your chamber is chrome lined it can tear up a reamer or screw up the cut leaving you with a ruined barrel.
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #18 ·
make sure that when your cleanin your AR that those holes in the rings are offset when you put it back together..
and i thought 5.56 and .223 are the same.. whats the diff
Ah, yes, Army b*ll-sh*t. I thought I smelled that coming in. The -10 calls for staggering gas-rings, which is a myth. The AR will function with just one gas-ring, staggering them has no effect.

And 5.56 and .223 are not the same. The neck and Leade are different dimensions.
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #19 ·
.556 runs at higher pressure and has a slightly longer neck. Depending on how tight your chamber is it can cause dangerous pressure levels. A Wylde chamber will fire both but if your chamber is chrome lined it can tear up a reamer or screw up the cut leaving you with a ruined barrel.
The Ned Christiansen reamer works fine. It causes additional reamer "wear" if you use it on a chrome chamber, but it won't tear up the reamer, and cannot screw up the cut. You drop it in the barrel and turn it until the metal quits coming out.

On an extremely hot day, shooting lots of ammo, you *might* experience "dangerous" pressure levels from shooting 5.56mm in .223 chambers, but you should get lots of pressure warnings long before that happens.

Not saying it isn't true, just trying to cut off the "sky is falling" nature that these threads inevitably head towards on the interweb.
 
G

·
Discussion Starter · #20 ·
My AR shot fine when one of the gas rings broke and disappeared. They are easily replaceable. BassPro will not have them. But several local gun shops around me do stock them. If you don't have any there, then check the internet - e.g., Brownells, Midway, and many others carry them. I have a spare parts kit from Brownells and would encourage you to get the same.

With respect to the 5.56 vs. .223, they are not the same. Here is a diagram that might clarify what others are stating...


In addition, I would encourage you to look at this website for very detailed answers to the question, plus much more info which is helpful for an AR owner.
http://www.ammo-oracle.com/body.htm
 
1 - 20 of 20 Posts
Top