My new AR-15 Varmint Rifle

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Discussion Starter · May 5, 2006

Just wanted to show off my new AR. Bought a DPMS upper and lower separately and slapped it together. The factory trigger sucked, but I did the standard 15 minute trigger job on it which reduced the length of pull a bit while dropping the trigger pull from 8+ to about 3 lbs. I can't wait to take it 'dogging this Summer and predator hunting over Winter.

I spent all my "gun" money on the rifle itself, so I chanced a budget scope with the Simmons Whitetail Classic. Man, this scope turned out to be awesome! Every bit as good as any Burris and I can't justify spending $300 on a Leupold when I can get this performance out of a $100 scope!

As far as I know, MidwayUSA is the only one to offer this scope in this configuration. I just wish I could find a sunshade to fit!

And...um...GO CARDS!

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Discussion Starter · #2 · May 5, 2006

pretty cool. i'm looking to buy or build an AR-15 as my next purchase. probably Rock River complete, if Scheel's gets the ok to start carrying them.

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Discussion Starter · #3 · May 5, 2006

Sweet deal. I'd like an AR, but there are so many guns, so little money. I blew my gun money on my 1911 and accesories, and haven't contributed to the fund since.

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Discussion Starter · #4 · May 5, 2006

That's a sweet AR-15!!! I'm jealous! Is that a 20" barrel?? May I ask what that setup (rifle only) cost you?

I'm still working on the funds for my AR-15 build. I only got a $62 refund from the IRS this year - so much for gun funds.

I'm going with an RRA 20" A4 flattop upper, and an RRA standard A2 lower w/ NM trigger group. I can't wait!!!

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Discussion Starter · #5 · May 5, 2006

dave_in_delaware said:
That's a sweet AR-15!!! I'm jealous! Is that a 20" barrel?? May I ask what that setup (rifle only) cost you?

Thanks! I get nice deals on gun stuff so it didn't cost me too much. DPMS guns are pretty reasonable in general. I've seen basically the same gun go for ~$750 on Gunbroker and I didn't pay too much less than that.

It is a 20" stainless bull barrel, 1-9" twist. If I would have had my druthers I would have gone with something like a 1-10 to 12" twist since it's hopefully going to be a prarie dog gun. I've put a hogue grip on it since this shot - much more comfortable and secure.

Anyone in Kansas got excess 'dogs they want rid of? I'll let you tag along and shoot some if you let me hunt the dogs off your prarie!

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Discussion Starter · #6 · May 5, 2006

Really nice gun man.

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Discussion Starter · #7 · May 6, 2006

Hey polymer, where did you get your hogue grip from?

I've got the standard factory grip on my dpms and not real fond of it. It's hard, slippery and just plain sucks.

I need to replace it.

But I do love my dpms.

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Discussion Starter · #8 · May 7, 2006

Whats a "varmint" rifle? I know all the AR varmints has that cylinder barrel but whats the real differnce between a regular AR and a varmint?

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Discussion Starter · #9 · May 7, 2006

Varmit are guns designed for precision over plinking. Varmit hunters need to be some of the most accurate shooters and you have to be, with many varmits being smaller and will run away at short ranges, meaning you have to shoot at longer distances with great precision and accuracy. Typically when someone says a varmit gun, it can literally be used for that, shooting varmits and this also translates to say that the gun has pretty good accuracy or that it at least was intended and designed for that purpose. Many varmit AR's are designed strictly for the .223 Rem round over the 5.56x45 NATO round for higher accuracy and tighter tolerances.

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Discussion Starter · #10 · May 7, 2006

bryan.tonya said:
Hey polymer, where did you get your hogue grip from?

They can be found lots of places. I bought mine from here - they have lots of other options for AR-15 grips. The Hogue was about the cheapest though, and some internet research showed that most people really like it.

They have black and OD green.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=645828

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Discussion Starter · #11 · May 8, 2006

Does this hogue have a cap in the bottom or just hollow?

Thanks

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Discussion Starter · #12 · May 8, 2006

Sweet rifle.....
Simmons scope, 6.5x20x50?

Here's my RRA 20" Varmint.......

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Discussion Starter · #13 · May 8, 2006

Why do all the varmint rifles have that FUGLY free-float smooth round tube type handguard?

I'm working on my AR-15, but don't want one of those HG's on my 20" rifle. I'm looking into a quad type rail for mounting a bipod and light eventually.

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Discussion Starter · #14 · May 8, 2006

dave_in_delaware said:
I'm looking into a quad type rail for mounting a bipod and light eventually.

A light on a varmint rifle.........?
Yea, that's a smart idea..........spotting coyotes with the light on your rifle!
:roll:

or....

Maybe full-float smooth handguards is the way I want it.

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Discussion Starter · #15 · May 8, 2006

Does this hogue have a cap in the bottom or just hollow?

No, no grip cap. You can pick up a generic grip cap and I'll bet it would work. There is a hole in the bottom just like the standard grip.

Why do all the varmint rifles have that FUGLY free-float smooth round tube type handguard?

Simple, Dave. I shoot this thing off rest bags or metal rests with bags on them. Why would I want a stinking Picatinny rail hanging up as I adjust for windage/elevation? And what the heck am I going to attach to my handguard that I can use to shoot prarie dogs with? I'm not going to light them up with a laser or tac light, lol. My gas block has a Picatinny rail up top in case I ever need to put a front sight on it.

Here's my RRA 20" Varmint.......

VERY nice - looks very similar to mine. Yeah, I got the 6.5-20x 50mm AO scope. I dig it. What bipod is that? I'd like to add on ebefore I go after coyotes, but I can't decide what Harris height I want. I'm thinking 9"-13" since I'll be shooting prone mostly.

Full-length rails are pretty stupid on varmint guns.

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Discussion Starter · #16 · May 9, 2006

Damn, guys. I didn't mean to bring wrath onto my comment. :shock:

I was just stating my opinion on those particular handguards and how I don't like the looks of them. But yet every place that sells varmint rifles use that type of HG. So, I was asking a serious question about that type of HG (vs. a quad rail vs. standard A2, etc.). What makes them special to hunters that the certain HG is always used. The smoother HG makes sense if you're using bags to rest on so it doesn't get stuck/snagged.

And I didn't mean I'd put a light on a varmint rifle. You probably wouldn't want a light for that. Mine is not going to be used for varmint (or other animal) hunting.

Wow. I never meant to insult anyone. If you like those types of HGs, then great. I don't. Personal opinions. That's all. We're all different. Hopefully I'll have something on my AR that you guys can bust on and tell me you hate.

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Discussion Starter · #17 · May 9, 2006

No problem Dave. When you use trigger words like fugly I feel like I have to defend my purchase. If I was putting together a CQB rifle, I would want plenty of Picatinny attachment points. This definitely isn't one of those types of guns though.

And for those interested in the Hogue grip, here's a detail shot with the grip and a 20-round AR-Stoner mag.

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Discussion Starter · #18 · May 9, 2006

Polymerhead said:
No problem Dave. When you use trigger words like fugly I feel like I have to defend my purchase. If I was putting together a CQB rifle, I would want plenty of Picatinny attachment points. This definitely isn't one of those types of guns though.

And for those interested in the Hogue grip, here's a detail shot with the grip and a 20-round AR-Stoner mag.

Fugly, fugly, fugly............just like all ARs... :twisted: ......nice rifle though. i like that grip.

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Discussion Starter · #19 · May 9, 2006

Wow i could drool over that pick for days(not just the gun but he background rules)i have been wanting to start an AR-Varmint but i blow all the money in the gun funds jusd as soon as i find a new pistol or something i have heard good things about!Really sux o to have a habbit like this!!! :lol:

Blake.

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Discussion Starter · #20 · May 9, 2006

OK polymerhead, no problems then. Yeah, it is a trigger word. I'm sure if someone said something about my rifle was fugly I'd have to defend it, too. It's all a personal choice, personal taste, and what we think
"beautiful" is.

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