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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Hi, I have been lurking here for bit checking out others' reviews and tips on their XDs. I have the 40SC and have found plenty of good reading, now I want to expand.

I am looking at getting/building an AR. I don't have one, nor ever owned one. In fact I have only shot a couple of rifles and for just a few rounds. I liked it, now I want my own. I have been researching them for about a month and been regularly checking out AR15.com to see what I can find and learn.

Here is the plan. I want to get a basic M4 type setup with a 16" barrel. I don't want the fancy add-ons until I am comfortable with shooting it as is and adding parts if needed later. I am leaning on buying a complete upper and building/buying a complete lower at this point. So far I have it down to the following 3 choices and I want to bounce it off the ones with more knowledge. All of the upper choices are similar setup unless otherwise noted.

Flat top (A3 or A4),5.56, chrome chamber and barrel, M4 handguards, A2 front sight, BCG,

#1 - LMT M4 1:7 twist

#2 - RRA Entry tactical - light weight barrel, handle/rear sight, 1:7 twist or 1:9 twist (got to make a choice)

#3 - Stag 2H - Aims rear sight, 1:9 twist

The lower will be a Stag (CMT) with an M4 stock or that seems to be the best choice at this point.

How comparable are the upper selections? Anything I should look out for or consider? Any stand out of the pack for fit, finish, or quality? Any BCG better than the other or they really the same? Who makes the best lower parts kit?

I am open for ideas. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
look into model1sales.com, my pops picked up a 24in Varminter and it works really really well.
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
If you've been regularly checking out AR15.com, why aren't you asking the question there? Those guys are the AR experts.
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
With my limited knowledge of AR's (I'm researching them too), I'd recommend RRA (at least the lowers) particularly for their match triggers--supposed to be terrific. As for the twist rates, I think the 1-9" is the most versatile with regard to different bullet weights, so that would be the one I'd go with in a carbine-style weapon. I believe the people who get the other one are generally doing so for competitions like service rifle stuff. From reputation, you'll likely be happy with any of the ones you mentioned, but if you get the RRA lower, you might as well get an upper from them as well and keep it all in one place. Happy shopping. :cool:
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
GaryTx said:
If you've been regularly checking out AR15.com, why aren't you asking the question there? Those guys are the AR experts.
Short and sweet. From what I have seen I would get a more honest and straight forward answer on this site.
Asking the question on AR15 would be like going into the local gun store and asking it. Half of the answers would be for Colt as well, which isn't even in the mix. I have seen some good answers to other questions posted, but you have to weed through alot of BS too. Or at least that is my take on it and why I asked here instead.
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
The LMT has M4 feed ramps and a chrome lined 4150 barrel.
The RRA has "dremel ramps", 4140 barrel with chrome lining as an option.
The Stag doesn't have M4 feed ramps, and has a chrome lined 4140 barrel.

LMT and CMT/Stag both make excellent BCG's.

All of mine have Stag LPK's.

Getting a complete Stag lower is a good idea because you'll have an excellent receiver, LPK, and you'll also get a mil-spec buffer tube. RRA doesn't use a mil-spec buffer tube.

If it were me, the three uppers on my list would be:
CMMG
Sabre Defence
LMT
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
Of the bunch for an M4gery, id go with the Stag 2H.

Stag/CMT is good stuff. Theyre also the best bang-for-the-buck option you listed.
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
Since you appear to be going for a CQB setup, I would recommend the RRA option 2 with the 1:9 twist. Not sure why you'd want a 1:7 twist for a CQB setup. To me, it doesn't make sense.
 
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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
Can't go wrong with any of the choices. But if it were me, I would go with the LMT.

Lower: Go with a Mega, by far the best fit and finish out of any of the forged lowers....Unless you want to pay 200+ for a forged billet lower. Not only are they good, they are availible right now. They are usually hard to come by as they only make a limited run of them.

Parts Kit: RRA is what most people uses. You can upgrade up to the LPK with the NM trigger
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
I know a little about AR's, but I definately know way more about bullet weights and twist rates, etc. I can definately tell you that you will want the 1:9 twist rate. It is will allow you to have the most versatility in bullet selection and will shoot much better if you choose to go with a heavier bullets. Best of luck to you, and I think all of the AR components you've mentioned will keep you happy.
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
The armourer at Scottsdale Gun Club (the largest indoor range in the country) said he recommends RRA over any other brand; and they don't even selll RRA there...take it for what it's worth.
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
I hate to do it to you, but the options you listed.. you won't go wrong with any of them.. Get a hold of Pete at AR15sales.com and he'll square you away. If you can find a better price on a Upper that he sells, he'll take care of you.

There's a lot to be said about the Stag Parts kit he has for $600-ish.. toss in the Stag lower or another you can find for about $130 or less and buy as many 30rnd mags as you can!

Oh yeah,.. go have fun and shoot the piss out of it!
 
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PackerfanXD said:
The armourer at Scottsdale Gun Club (the largest indoor range in the country) said he recommends RRA over any other brand; and they don't even selll RRA there...take it for what it's worth.
I may need to stop by there next time I am up that way, I seen the location th other week when I was there but did'nt have time to stop in. Might have to make a trip up that way soon...
 
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