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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I am looking for a red dot optic for my AR. I can get a Great condition short Aimpoint for 300 Lightly used in quick throw mounts. Should I get this, or a C-more rifle sight?
Here is the C-more http://www.cmore.com/tactical.html.

Any other suggestions would help. I dont really like the Eotech though. (friend has one) Looking for under $500 with mount. will be used out to around 100 yards

Thanks
DaFUnk
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
I wouldn't get a C more if you can spend up to $500 on a red dot. I was going through the same thing a few months ago trying to decide on which red dot for my light AR15.

My choices were Eotech, Aimpoint or Trijicon Tripower.

Eotech pros
very rugid
the 1MOA dot with 65 MOA circle was useful

Eotech con
the mount that comes with it is the weak point.

Aimpoint pro
the battery life cannot be beat

con
the mount that is supplied with the Aimpoints aren't the best...usable, but not great.

Trijicon Tripower pros
doesn't need to use batteries due to the tritium
I like the Chevron versus the dot because my eyes can pick up the chevron faster.

cons
battery life isn't nearly as good as the Aimpoint
mount provided wasn't the best.

I ended up buying the Tripower because I liked the option of not having to rely solely on a battery. I also upgraded to an ARMS QD mount as well. I may buy the Larue mount for it down the road.

You should also look at the inexpensive Aimpoint clones. The one guy on ebay (canadian) sells a ton of them and they have been holding up to some abuse. I believe he is asking $65 for his unit. I had one on an AR that I sold and it worked well. There is also the Ultra Dot StrikeDot that sells for around $100 on ebay.
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
the aimpoint doesnt have a dot, it has a reticle that looks like
^ . It looks great and is in the Arms quick throw mount. I would need to get some BUIS or just chop my tacticle carry handle to make some. How say you? What does the reticle shape do other than the dot?
Thanks DaFUnk
 
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You should also look at the inexpensive Aimpoint clones. The one guy on ebay (canadian) sells a ton of them and they have been holding up to some abuse. I believe he is asking $65 for his unit. I had one on an AR that I sold and it worked well. There is also the Ultra Dot StrikeDot that sells for around $100 on ebay.[/quote] Dont waste your money on the ripoff lamepoint mine lasted 6 months and was garbage. Rheostat went after about 500 rounds through a bushmaster dissipator. $300 for the real thing sounds like a bargain I would definately go that way.
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
I have one with the carry handle mount, let ya have it for 275 shipped. It is on my SRH right now, here's a picture of it. Les
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
The CMore sight LOOKS nice - but the dot is rather big - makes it harder for 50 yards and on....

I like the EOtech. No one else has a 1 MOA dot. I have an EOtech on my PS90, and I like it a lot. It's also at a great price too. I'd buy a 512 EOtech if I were U. With lithium AA batteries, U can get 1100 hours of battery life.
 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Aimpoint guy, through and through, but I have to say, the Burris Extreme tactical Red Dot is a performer! It has a nice 3MOA dot which splits the difference between a 2MOA and 4MOA Aimpoint. I like it, and my impression is that it will stand up to a good amount of neglectful abuse. The one I experienced was mounted on an 18" barreled .308 Predator Custom Shop rifle, and that particular rifle has seen some rounds with no ill affects to any individual component.

http://www.burrisoptics.com/tactical2.html

+50 hilarity points for the camo faced man with the Beretta CX4!
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
I have a flat top upper reciever, so thats no biggie. The burris looks cool, but what does everyone think? The aimpoint and it could be in the running togather. Also, when u buy the C-more you can get it with a 2 moa dot.
DaFUnk
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
I just picked up an AimPoint ML3, ARD Killflash and a single Burris XTreme Ring. I put this on my M4gery last week, popped about 400rnds through it on Saturday. I'm not minding the 4MOA dot and it's Minute of Dinner Plate at 150m in an unsupported stance.

Mines set to an absolute co-witness so that's why I'm using the Burris ring (on recommendation from a very reliable buddy) and I gotta say.. $30 for it, over $125 for the LaRue.. hmm I'm very pleased. Granted it isn't QD, but I'm not exactly far from my Gerber tool when I have the rifle, so it's quick enough.

I paid $370 for the ML3, $30 for the ring and $20 for the KillFlash.. so that lines up with your price range and gives you a picture of what you can do.

Seeing as you have the cash, unless you're looking to understand if you like the AimPoint setup, I'd stay away from the Clones. Just got with the AP M/ML3. Then again you might look at some of the short dot optics as well. the IOR Valdada is a good deal at about what your looking to pay. You'd get a choice of reticles and that spiffy 4x magnification. Do be warned, the complaints I hear about both the Trijicon mentioned in this thread and the IOR is the typically short eye relief.

All and All, if the 1x mag, dead reliable setup of the AimPoint has your attention, then rock on man.. if you don't like the rig, let me know :)
 
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I have had my life depend on the aimpoint, and an eotec. From what I've seen I would not recommend the aimpoint to any one. Maybe the ones the army gets are cheap but, the main problem I've seen with them is that they don't keep there zero well, and in low light condition they dot in it doesn't work well. Now the eotec I am using right now is one of the best sights I've ever used. One of the best things about the eotec is if you crack the glass it will rezero it self were its not cracked. If I had a choice I wouldn't trust my life or the lives of my soldiers on an aimpoint.
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
This is a little off topic, so please excuse me. I went to the link for Burris and noted they had a laser/flashlight for handguns. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any price, nor what guns it fits. Boricua, can you be of any help. Thanks.
 
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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
retired said:
This is a little off topic, so please excuse me. I went to the link for Burris and noted they had a laser/flashlight for handguns. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any price, nor what guns it fits. Boricua, can you be of any help. Thanks.
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I'm afraid I only have experience with their scopes and the red dots. Their description says "fits most handguns" so I'd assume that it would fit rails like those found on the Glocks & XDs. I'm not sure if it would fit one of the new-school Picatinny rails though.

Here's a pic from a distributor, it shows a little bit of the "guts"
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
steelrain1700 said:
I have had my life depend on the aimpoint, and an eotec. From what I've seen I would not recommend the aimpoint to any one. Maybe the ones the army gets are cheap but, the main problem I've seen with them is that they don't keep there zero well, and in low light condition they dot in it doesn't work well. Now the eotec I am using right now is one of the best sights I've ever used. One of the best things about the eotec is if you crack the glass it will rezero it self were its not cracked. If I had a choice I wouldn't trust my life or the lives of my soldiers on an aimpoint.
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Sounds like a mounting problem. A buddy of mine used to do a lot of business with Aimpoint and they sent out a demo unit ML2. They told us "Take it off, run it over with a truck, and remount it." We took the whole mount (Aimpoint QRP found on many Army rifles) & Aimpoint off, had a buddy run it over at about 10mph, remounted it and we were still zeroed at 50 yards. While EOTechs are good optics, I've found that the 65 MOA ring is useless to me. Like they say, different strokes for different folks...
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
aubie515 said:
You should also look at the inexpensive Aimpoint clones. The one guy on ebay (canadian) sells a ton of them and they have been holding up to some abuse. I believe he is asking $65 for his unit. I had one on an AR that I sold and it worked well. There is also the Ultra Dot StrikeDot that sells for around $100 on ebay.
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Those clones are crap. had one...it broke. they cant hold up to the bump n grind of the real deal. theyre cool if you baby your AR.
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
I bought an el-cheapo red dot made by S.P.OT. 3MOA. A lot of the people over on ar15 had good things to say about it. I went out and bought a good mount and it has held zero great.....seems pretty sturdy.
 
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Discussion Starter · #20 ·
Bought an Aimpoint clone off of ebay.
battery doesn't last as long, pretty sturdy, doesn't hold parallax as true as the real thing... over all I like it for 37$.

Cheers,
 
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