RockRiverArms Config Questions?

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Discussion Starter · Jan 28, 2007

Been seriously contemplating the RRA CAR A4 but have a couple questions for those that own and/or know.

- Any difference between the Elite and Tactical besides the length of the forward grip? Thoughts on one versus the other?
- Those that bought or know a lot about them, any of the different configurations that you recommend such as which barrel, muzzle device, etc.
-One thing that is frustrating about RRA's site is that they don't show you images or info on the different choices and I just can't figure out their site. Once you choose the options then what the heck do you do? How do you get it in the cart? There is no option unless I'm totally blind: http://www.rockriverarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=AR1225X&storeid=1&image=ela407.gif&CFID=33754926&CFTOKEN=91347832

Oh, and is there a better place to get one besides RRA direct?

Tanks!

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Discussion Starter · #2 · Jan 28, 2007

I'm not an expert by any means but I believe these are correct answers, I could be mistaken though.

The longer the forward grip the longer site radius you will get.
As far as configuration goes that's more of a personal preference. What will you use it for, a varmint rifle, CQB, etc? I would definitely at a minimum get a chrome lined barrel. The other things you can do as you get a feel for the rifle.

Once you decide what you want... or before is probably the best bet, you will probably have to set yourself up as a registered user in order to access the cart, and place an order. Have you got an FFL arranged yet? You will likely need that info as well.

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Discussion Starter · #3 · Jan 28, 2007

You can't order a rifle direct form RRA website without and FFL (Federal Firearms License) dealer account. That's why you can't added it to your cart. You will need to find a local dealer to order for you. Look around you can usually get a dealer that will deliver the gun significantly under the price listed on RRA website. I ordered one of their Coyote Rifle and got it for about $100 dollars less than the price listed on the website and that include sales tax.

As for the Tactical or Elite I would go with the Elite that has the mid length forearm. It a pet peeve of mine but why the heck would you want to put those short forearms and associated gas system that were made for a 14.5 inch barrel on a 16 inch barrel? This baffles me! Remember the gas system is short on guns with those short forearms This results in higher pressure gases getting into the gas system and the pressure remain high longer as the bullet doesn't exit the barrel for 1.5 inches longer than usual. This results in a gun that may pull the head of cases and recoils slightly harder. Not to mention the all important bayonet (sarcasm on this sentence) won't work right without a goofy extension on it. The mid length forearm and associate mid length gas system was designed to go with a 16 inch barrel. I think you will find that system will work better than the short gas system.

IMHO short forearms/gas system on a 16 inch barrel is for want-a-be's If you really have to have a short forearm set a short barrel rifle license and get the 14.5 inch barrel to go with them.

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mcb

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Discussion Starter · #4 · Jan 28, 2007

mcb said:
You can't order a rifle direct form RRA website without and FFL (Federal Firearms License) dealer account. That's why you can't added it to your cart. You will need to find a local dealer to order for you. Look around you can usually get a dealer that will deliver the gun significantly under the price listed on RRA website. I ordered one of their Coyote Rifle and got it for about $100 dollars less than the price listed on the website and that include sales tax.

As for the Tactical or Elite I would go with the Elite that has the mid length forearm. It a pet peeve of mine but why the heck would you want to put those short forearms and associated gas system that were made for a 14.5 inch barrel on a 16 inch barrel? This baffles me! Remember the gas system is short on guns with those short forearms This results in higher pressure gases getting into the gas system and the pressure remain high longer as the bullet doesn't exit the barrel for 1.5 inches longer than usual. This results in a gun that may pull the head of cases and recoils slightly harder. Not to mention the all important bayonet (sarcasm on this sentence) won't work right without a goofy extension on it. The mid length forearm and associate mid length gas system was designed to go with a 16 inch barrel. I think you will find that system will work better than the short gas system.

IMHO short forearms/gas system on a 16 inch barrel is for want-a-be's If you really have to have a short forearm set a short barrel rifle license and get the 14.5 inch barrel to go with them.

Rambling
mcb

That makes sense. I did register but it still did not let me add to the cart. I wasn't going to order but just wanted to see if it would show a cart with all the items and maybe a pic. No such luck. No biggie. I just wish they'd put a link to describe each option or at least a pic. Poor web design. Thanks for the info and I agree with you on the longer arm.

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Discussion Starter · #5 · Jan 28, 2007

Jettubby said:
That makes sense. I did register but it still did not let me add to the cart. I wasn't going to order but just wanted to see if it would show a cart with all the items and maybe a pic. No such luck. No biggie. I just wish they'd put a link to describe each option or at least a pic. Poor web design. Thanks for the info and I agree with you on the longer arm.

Yeah I though similar about their website when I was picking out my RRA. Have you checked out AR-15.com. There are lots of good info over there. They don't seem to be to exceptionaly outgoing to newbies on the forum but there is still a lot of good information I'm sure if a particular option/accessory you want to see there is a picture of it over there or someone will show you were to see one.

Good luck
mcb

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Discussion Starter · #6 · Jan 28, 2007

mcb:

With the shorter CAR rifle and hand guards, do you know if one could move the front site post forward, upgrade the gas tube to the 16 inch, and add on mid-length hand guards? If that scenario is a possible option I could really see that being a bonus in the extra flexability of the AR.

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