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Discussion Starter #1
I don't want to start a pissing war here. I am getting an upper within the next week and most likely am ordering a RRA CAR-A4 or Stag 2H. I want the 1:9 barrel, so that kicks out most of the "upper-end" kool-aid brands. I even spoke with Pete at AR15sales.com about the LMT upper and he said he sends more of those back for repairs than he does RRA. Anywho, what is everyone's opinions here that has a Stag or RRA?

Again, Colt, LMT are probably out. I would prefer the 1:9 barrel and my budget won't allow me to get a Colt.

Thoughts?

Thanks.
 
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Discussion Starter #2
Its probably a toss up but I REALLY like my RRA and will be buying another upper from them soon.
 
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Discussion Starter #3
Good past experience is good to hear. Thanks for the info ichy. Any problems with dremeled feed ramps or improperly staked carrier keys? I think I have been reading too much from some of the people on ar15.com.
 
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Discussion Starter #4
About on parity with each other all things being equal. I've got both, don't notice any specific differences out of the box, they both work well and meet the needs I have. I don't guess that's much help.. what else did Pete tell ya?
 
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Discussion Starter #5
No that does help. Thanks.

I had also asked him about the "FSB" problem that Stag had at the end of last year, early part of this year. He said that was a problem with the barrels or receivers that some people were getting but that it was no longer a problem.

Anyone else have any negative or positives to either?
 
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Discussion Starter #6
take a look at how many lower manufacteurs are selling stag lowers under their own name..

i think that says something.

both are fine though
 
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Discussion Starter #7
I have a RRA upper, thoroughly pleased. Gas key is properly staked, staked castle nut, true M4 ramps....

All of which the kool-aid drinkers refuse to acknowledge ;)
 
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Discussion Starter #9
I'm not sure if it's standard on all their uppers or not.

This was on my first EBR and I didn't know anything about such things till after the fact. I kinda felt let down that I had a sub-standard weapon until I started investigating the one I had, and found that it did in fact have all the "coolness" that the stupid chart (I think everyone knows which chart I'm talking about) says it didn't have
 
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Discussion Starter #10
There's a lot of good information on m4carbine.net. There's the chart that lists all the major manufacturers and who has what and there's a thread with pics about M4 feed ramps, proper "staking", etc. that illustrates all this with real pictures of real guns. Everyone is drinking something. If it's not kool aid it's hawaiian punch, so take what we all say with a grain of salt and add that with all the research you can do and you'll be happy with what you choose.
 
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Discussion Starter #11
I'm not sure if it's standard on all their uppers or not.

This was on my first EBR and I didn't know anything about such things till after the fact. I kinda felt let down that I had a sub-standard weapon until I started investigating the one I had, and found that it did in fact have all the "coolness" that the stupid chart (I think everyone knows which chart I'm talking about) says it didn't have

I checked the chart and it said my EBR is better than your EBR...nananabooboo...:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
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Discussion Starter #12
Ok, cool, 'cause honestly I've been going crazy trying to read up on what parts are "good" and what to avoid and... it's not working :p
 
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Discussion Starter #13
I appreciate everyone's honest, for the most part, unbiased responses. No bashing here. This is why I like this site so much over others as everyone is for the most part respectable of the gun you choose. I don't even have an XD anymore and I am here daily b/c of the people who are here.
 
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Discussion Starter #14
My current upper has a properly staked gas key, my castle nuts have remained tight, my feedramps are fine and its digested everything ive put through it to include good ammo and crap ammo. I can honestly say it has never jammed, missfired or anything else.
 
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Discussion Starter #16
Got my Stag Model 2 from GandRTactical.

www.gandrtactical.com

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=4691

$830 + $20 shipping + whatever a local FFL is charging for the transfer.

Grant takes care of properly staking the carrier key, installing a black extractor insert and a Crane O-Ring. Then test firing the weapon before sending it off. He's easy to work with, a wealth of knowledge and has good prices.

Stag is made by CMT Continental Machine Tool Company. Which has been making components for Colt and Rock River Arms for quite a few years now, before getting into the business of selling uppers, lower and complete rifles by forming Stag Arms in 2003.
 
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Discussion Starter #18
He quoted me $450 for the RRA CAR-A4 with chrome lined barrel I believe. I was going to verify the CLB before ordering if that is the one I pick. But $450 is the MSRP on the chrome-moly so I would imagine the $450 from Pete is for the chrome lined due to his lower pricing.
 
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Discussion Starter #19
Has anyone ever heard of or bought anything from riflegear.com? They have a real good price on a Stag 2H as well.
 
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Discussion Starter #20
Can't speak the RRA parts, but I have a Stag 2L (lefty) complete rifle and have found it to be rock solid. Goes bang every time I pull the trigger and all of the parts fit tightly.
 
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