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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Going to add to the collection this spring, posted a while back on another part of the forum looking at some revolvers. I am now wandering off again toward getting an AR(having a little spare cash is a burden when there are so many possibilites:rolleyes:). I do not have one, some thoughts earlier about getting an AK(do not have that either), but I think I am back to an AR. Might wait until the gunshow in the spring but one locally has my interest. It is a DPMS A1 carbine. I am hoping that you folks can get me educated on my choices before I buy, including some input on the DPMS.

Thanks in advance

Pike
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
I have heard great things about the DPMS AR's in .308 and the varminter setups, however I have read some bad things about DPMS carbines. I have no experience with them and am not knocking them, just passing on what I have heard. I think for the same $$ or cheaper you can get Stag or RRA which have really good reps.
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
You might consider Bushmaster as a possible choice. Among the ARs I have are a couple of Bushmasters and I find them to be well screwed together and reliable.

There are several good ARs manufactures to chose from. Make a trip over to AR-15.com and look around for information over there to help you make your decission.
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
i have a cmmg 18" that i can highly recomend i built the rifle for about $700 and i love it. now i would say i have about $1000+ into it i upgraded to a rra 2 stage match trigger, a free float tube, different gas block, and a hogue grip.

so one big recomondation is that to buy exactly what you want instead of buying and then swaping out parts
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Thanks for all of the comments so far, Badshot, I read the link, thanks it will be helpful. I will go over and peruse the ar15 sight for some more insights. I have looked at Bushmaster but I will also look at cmmg. I am also going to look at S&W along with Sig. Anything else?

Thanks

Pike.
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Honestly, the screaming deal in the market right now is the CMMG bargain bin rifles. If you're not dead set on building it yourself but want an excellent starting platform then these are the most economical way to go. While I'm not a fan of S&W's politics in the past, the M&P15 series is another good way to get into a fairly complete rifle at a reasonable cost.

I don't mention Bushy for a reason.. I haven't had a ton of luck with the newer ones. Don't know what their bag is, but as noted by many many folks, they're hit or miss of late.

DPMS is another hit or miss lower mid level manufacturer. Not one I'd buy a complete rifle from. Their lowers are in spec though. Their Lower Parts Kits are entry level and are often replaced after a person learns what they really want in their AR.

STAG makes another great entry level rifle coming in around $825.. they're coming with Midwest Industries BUIS, having fingered one on Saturday I'd say they are pretty decent - the BUIS that is, STAG I love - better than ARMS, but not Troy or GG&G. They're also coming with a mag, so that gets you started as well. I own a STAG upper that's serving well, snagged that from Pete at AR15SALES.COM a while back.

RRA makes a great mid priced rifle as well. I own 2, a 20" and a 16" middy. Both are very reliable and I'd buy another. Don't buy in to the DEA hype.. just because they did a bulk contract with them doesn't mean that you'll get even close to the same deal the DEA and other agencies did, there are significant differences in what the DEA can afford and dictate.. RRA is capitalizing on the marketing hype and if I were a betting man, keeping their production numbers in check to boost the idea that they are a bigger seller than they really could be. Still a great rifle..

CMMG, the bargain bin guns are from what I'm seeing, typically built on DPMS lowers, but as you can tell from most of your research, as long as the lower is in spec you're pretty much good to go. As for their branded rifles, again great reviews and a dedicated customer base.. not to mention they're great folk.

LMT/Novesky/LWRC/Colt - the fact of the matter is that you do get the value out of the costs for these weapons. They are the premier manufacturers/assemblers and they are in that top tier for a very good reason.

You absolutely get what you pay for in a new weapon. There are other manufacturers that I'm neglecting to mention and I'm not hitting the detail that our sticky post has, but one serious piece of advise is to take 90% of what you find on ARFCOM with a grain of salt. You can check here and M4carbine.net for much better and timely information. ARFCOM is a great shopping resource though and don't neglect that!

Enjoy!
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
Thanks again Badshot, a lot to digest. I read the thread on the cmmg bin guns, sounds like a possible. I hate to buy stuff I cannot fondle first. Too bad about the DPMS full package issues. I was really starting to warm up to a DPMS carbine full meal deal. I am going to look at builds also, not sure if I want to go that way but it is worth a look.

Thanks and thanks to everyone else for their $.02

Pike
 
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