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I've been reading threads about back up iron sights since I'm planning to get a flat top. I've seen posts about $200 Troy iron sights and others in the $150 range. I've also seen sub-$100 BUIS. Why?

I can understand when it comes to optics. Higher quality lenses can cost more but iron is iron. How can the cost of BUIS differ so much?

 

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same reason why its like 100 bucks for new sights on a pistol :-(

 

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Because they are made of pure, unadulterated, Iron!!

 

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Because they are made of pure, unadulterated, Iron!!

Annnnnd.....????

 

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My guess would be because it takes all kinds of intricate machining, and it all has to be perfect.

 

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Why are stripped lowers so expensive? To me a rear site seems a lot more complicated than a stripped lower.

I just ordered some promag sites, $90 for both the flip up front and rear. I'll let you know how it works out.

 

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Here are three BUIS for under $50. I can't seem to justify a $150 Troy when these will do the same thing.

ARR-140 - AR-15 Complete Rear Sight Mounts on all flattop rails - Manufactured by: Leapers

ARR-142 - Tatical Flip Up Rear Sight Quick Detachable Adjustable A2 Square Post Assembly fits Picatinny/Weaver Style Rails - Manufactured by: Leapers

ARR-162 - AR-15 ProMag Flip Up Dual Aperture Sight Standard Military Style Flip Apertures - Manufactured by: Pro Mag

 

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The reason they cost so much is because you will pay the money for them and if you dont, the next guy will...

 

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The problem with the cheaper BUIS is the big, easy to adjust windage knob.

I use BUIS for exactly that... Back-up. I want to set them once and forget about them until I actually need them. With the large knobs, there is a much greater chance of them being bumped and knocked around, and possibly changing your POA/POI. When the SHTF and you need your BUIS, you want them to be right where you left them.

That's why I am spending more on the Troy sights. The rear actually locks into place. Once you adjust it, that's where it stays until you change it. For a range gun, the cheaper ones are fine, and they're actually easier for fine-tuning or constant adjustment. For my SHTF gun, though, it's Troy all the way for me.

 

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Thanks for your inputs. For my range plinking AR, I think I'll settle for the less expensive ones. I can use Locktite to keep them from turning.

 

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Thanks for your inputs. For my range plinking AR, I think I'll settle for the less expensive ones. I can use Locktite to keep them from turning.

But you won't have the e-peni$ if you don't spend 3x as much for something.

The reason they charge so much for some brands is because people buy based on a perceived increase in quality with an increase in price.

 

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Here are three BUIS for under $50. I can't seem to justify a $150 Troy when these will do the same thing.


Leapers

Leapers

ProMag

Leapers is cheap junk....barely above airsoft toy gun crap
ProMag is a bit above that.

Don't know where you are shopping at but I bought a "used" Troy rear for $85, just had to clean the tan krylon off of it. Underneath the paint it still looked brand new

I'd rather buy something used than to buy the stuff that is "just as good".

 

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But you won't have the e-peni$ if you don't spend 3x as much for something.

The reason they charge so much for some brands is because people buy based on a perceived increase in quality with an increase in price.

 

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The reason they cost so much is because you will pay the money for them and if you dont, the next guy will...

I too think this is true. The juice drinking is very strong on the internet. For the most part, I go cheap as possible, if it does not work out, then I upgrade. The saying pay once cry once never worked for me. I believe the internet rangers say that so they can feel good about paying $150 for a rear site.

 

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Trust me... If I could find a sight cheaper than the Troy that actually LOCKS in place, I would be all over it!

As I said before, the big knobs make windage adjustments nice and easy for the range. But, knocking around in your trunk during a SHTF scenario turns the big (easy turning) knob into a liability.

 

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I recently ordered MI BUIS for my DPMS LR308. I can't really give you an special reason why. I took a look on line and thought they looked ok. When they arrive, I will see if I like them or not. Initially I thought the prices were high as well but I figured if that is what they cost, that's what they cost. I've never used BUIS before so the MI units will be my first experience with them.

Midwest Industries: SPLP (Same Plane Low Profile)
Midwest Industries: Flip Up Front Sight

 

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I think YHM makes a quality BUIS for about $60(?).

 

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Actually the solid YHM is $41.99 and the Flip up is $74.99

 

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I've been reading ar15.com and m4carbine.net lately, now that I started to build one. I notice there are quite a few LEO/military types who need a lot from their rifle. These are people who use their AR in a life or death situation. These seem to be the folks who are paying for $200 sights. The rest of the folks either take home defense to the same level as combat or just want to be like them.

 

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I've been reading ar15.com and m4carbine.net lately, now that I started to build one. I notice there are quite a few LEO/military types who need a lot from their rifle. These are people who use their AR in a life or death situation. These seem to be the folks who are paying for $200 sights. The rest of the folks either take home defense to the same level as combat or just want to be like them.

I completely agree with your assessment. My LEO and military buddies give me crap about my "optics only" ARs because of what could happen to render an optic useless. But, I own multiple ARs and, quite frankly, they are all pretty much "range toys".

I do have one AR that I'm building as my "stake-your-life-on-it" carbine that will be my go-to gun if/when the SHTF... That one is getting the best of everything with no compromises, so $250 sights aren't an issue for me. Although I will not be putting them on all my ARs.